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Manually Operated Reverse Lamp? Legal?
smart1275gt - 16/3/08 at 01:49 PM

Having a modded gear selector box on my car means I no longer have space for the reverse light switch, so thinking about a manual switch mounted near the gear stick with a dash warning light. Would this fail the MOT or be illegal?

Cheers.


graememk - 16/3/08 at 01:50 PM

you dont need a reversing lamp, but if fitted i assume it must work


rusty nuts - 16/3/08 at 01:52 PM

Reversing light is not tested for MOT so even if fitted it does not have to work


David Jenkins - 16/3/08 at 02:06 PM

I believe that a manually operated reverse light is ok as long as you have a clearly visible warning light on the dash.

But don't quote me on that!


tks - 16/3/08 at 03:27 PM

i think that its a safety device for warning that you are going reverse....

so i do think that if you have reverse you will need the light...and that it needs to be engaged automaticly...

Safety guys safety...


chunkytfg - 16/3/08 at 03:40 PM

Tell you what though a manually operated one could be fun if you have some chav behind you at the lights tyring to intimidate you.

Flick the reversing light on. then GIve it loads of revs as the lights change and see if they cack themselves


Macbeast - 16/3/08 at 03:42 PM

No, it's an optional light to let you see where you're going when in reverse.

But obviously you must not show a white light to the rear when going forwards so would be better to have it switched automatically or at least have a warning light on the dashboard when switched manually - but with the number of cars going along with indicators still flashing after the last turn or even with emergency lights flashing for mile after mile, warning lights don't seem to be very effective.


- added after previous post - Oh Abby !!!
Be still my beating heart !!



[Edited on 16/3/08 by Macbeast]


matt_claydon - 16/3/08 at 03:49 PM

As above, there are no rules in SVA or MOT about reverse lights - they are purely for driver convenience.


scotty g - 16/3/08 at 03:50 PM

When i got my first car at 18 it didn't have a reverse light as it was an old Viva so i fitted one myself, it was a large spotlight that i bolted onto the top of the rear bumper and it worked off of a switch on the dash and it was bally great.
I could scare the livng sh1t out of people too close behind me!


Paul TigerB6 - 16/3/08 at 04:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by chunkytfg
Tell you what though a manually operated one could be fun if you have some chav behind you at the lights tyring to intimidate you.

Flick the reversing light on. then GIve it loads of revs as the lights change and see if they cack themselves



Now that would be an extremely childish thing to do!!!................ i like it!!


blakep82 - 16/3/08 at 05:09 PM

the reverse lights on my old BMW 318 e30 never worked, but nevevr failed MOT, and my grandma had a MG 1100 with a reverse light switch on the dash, was fine. don't know if it had a warning light or anything though


britishtrident - 16/3/08 at 06:14 PM

Must have a warning light directly in driver line of vision --- Road Traffic Acts.


smart1275gt - 16/3/08 at 06:46 PM

Thanks for all your feedback, cheers people!


DarrenW - 17/3/08 at 04:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scotty g
When i got my first car at 18 it didn't have a reverse light as it was an old Viva so i fitted one myself, it was a large spotlight that i bolted onto the top of the rear bumper and it worked off of a switch on the dash and it was bally great.
I could scare the livng sh1t out of people too close behind me!



Ditto here too on my first mini! i was forever forgetting to switch it off.


chunkytfg - 17/3/08 at 05:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Must have a warning light directly in driver line of vision --- Road Traffic Acts.


Which doesnt have any effect over the pass or fail of an MOT


iank - 17/3/08 at 05:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by chunkytfg
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Must have a warning light directly in driver line of vision --- Road Traffic Acts.


Which doesnt have any effect over the pass or fail of an MOT


Bit could get you a fine if an on the ball traffic cop spots you driving down the road with the reversing lamp on.


matt_claydon - 17/3/08 at 06:29 PM

Strictly speaking it wouldn't be the Road Traffic Act, that deals with, well, traffic! Lighting issues would be covered in the Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations (RVLR) which you can find on the web if you're really bored!

Spcifically here: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_19.htm#nsch14requirementrelatingoptionalreversinglamp

quote:

Tell-tale-
(a) A motor vehicle first used on or after 1st July 1954, provided that the electrical connections are such that the reversing lamp or lamps cannot be illuminated other than automatically by the selection of the reverse gear of the vehicle:
--- No requirement

(b) Any other motor vehicle first used on or after 1st July 1954:
--- A circuit-closed tell-tale shall be fitted