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Mark Allanson - 5/9/04 at 07:35 PM

At work, I have £18k of suspension diagnostic equipment at my disposal, but it takes about an hour to set up the car on the system, and for a locost (not on the computer database surprisingly enough!) it takes about 1/2 hour to add your own software.

I am having some doubt over my rear suspension, so today I checked everything, I drop checked the chassis, everything spot on, and I also checked the castor, to check my modified wishbones. They came out with exactly what I expected/hoped for.

Here is the kit I used to check! Rescued attachment Castor 1.jpg
Rescued attachment Castor 1.jpg


Mark Allanson - 5/9/04 at 07:36 PM

I have 22mm of setback, just what I wanted! Rescued attachment Castor 2.jpg
Rescued attachment Castor 2.jpg


rusty nuts - 5/9/04 at 08:14 PM

Cutting edge technology, who needs it?? Rusty


Viper - 5/9/04 at 08:16 PM

String computers are still used by a lot of race teams..


Mark Allanson - 5/9/04 at 08:34 PM

There is a realy self satisfied, smug feeling when that last diagonal twangs down a nice chalk line dead on target!


Northy - 5/9/04 at 09:27 PM

Sorry old-timers, I don't understand old money!

So when's it gonna be finished Mark? If you weren't so far away I'd come and help you! Come to think of it I could do with a holiday!


Mark Allanson - 5/9/04 at 10:06 PM

Room for a tent in the back garden, not far off now. Front calipers need a refurb, cycle wings in progress, wiring - waiting for the man who does, paint - SVA!


David Jenkins - 6/9/04 at 07:26 AM

Mark,

To encourage you... I made my top wishbones to give around 22mm setback, and the steering makes a clear effort to self-centre from a standing start.

rgds,

David


James - 6/9/04 at 09:51 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Viper
String computers are still used by a lot of race teams..


I know a well known Formula1 team that still uses string!

James


Northy - 6/9/04 at 12:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by James

I know a well known Formula1 team that still uses string!

James


Black and silver cars?


ned - 6/9/04 at 12:17 PM

i'm sure if he told you he'd have to kill you, it's all very hush hush

Ned.


stephen_gusterson - 6/9/04 at 01:05 PM

I wouldnt bother with the string.

You could set the car up by eye, cos however its done, the german bloke would still blow all else into the weeds.

Formula one is like Arsenal Vs Accrington Stanley at the moment, and Accrinton forgot to turn up.....

atb

steve

ps - do you think ferrari would use spaghetti?


locost_bryan - 7/9/04 at 04:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
the german bloke would still blow all else into the weeds.


you mean that bloke wot finished second at Spa then guv?


JoelP - 7/9/04 at 07:21 AM

yup, that one! and what car was in front of him? balck and something IIRC...

thats what you need, a good finn.


James - 7/9/04 at 11:17 AM

Just guessing but I reckon it was probably that absolutely brilliant set of gears he had in his gearbox that did it for him!


James


ned - 7/9/04 at 11:32 AM

was that the special low friction, high power coating you dipped them i then


stephen_gusterson - 7/9/04 at 12:25 PM

isnt that only 2 races this year that schu hasnt won..... thats summat like an 85% success rate.

Think my statement stands!

atb

steve


PS - I havnt watched a race for yonks as F1 at present is a defective product.



quote:
Originally posted by locost_bryan
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
the german bloke would still blow all else into the weeds.


you mean that bloke wot finished second at Spa then guv?


locost_bryan - 8/9/04 at 04:38 AM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
I havnt watched a race for yonks as F1 at present is a defective product


... that's why the main advertiser during our coverage is Nescafe coffee

hopefully Spa wasn't a one-off - crashes, engine failures, real overtaking


James - 8/9/04 at 07:25 AM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
isnt that only 2 races this year that schu hasnt won..... thats summat like an 85% success rate.



Yup! And he only lost at Monaco after Montoya drove into the back of him.
And as far as Spa goes- he was lapping much quicker than Raikkonen, if it hadn't been for the ridiculous amount of time the safety car was out just befoe the end then it would have been a tight finish to say the least!

James


stephen_gusterson - 8/9/04 at 09:13 AM

the sceptic in me makes me think they lost on purpose, to add a bit more interest cos he'd won the championship already in that position.....


atb

steve


marktigere1 - 8/9/04 at 01:00 PM

Come back Damon Hill.

The only driver in the last 10 years to give Schuey a bl@@dy good run for his money. The only bloke who refused to yield to him unlike today.

I still laugh at the 94 season when everyone said the Williams was a better car than the Benetton. Someone obviously forgot to tell Senna because he said the car was not great and needed more work. Still put it on pole twice though!!

A very sad loss to F1. If he was still driving, I don't believe Mr S would have it all his own way.

Cheers

Mark


skinny - 8/9/04 at 02:51 PM

agree re senna, a real shame about that, he should not have gone to williams tho - nothing better than a yellow helmet poking out of the white and red maclaren.


stephen_gusterson - 8/9/04 at 03:00 PM

also sadly, mr senna would have been 44 now, and likely retired about 6 years ago. Still wouldnt have stopped the kraut......

One of the best wahhhhaaayyyy moments ive seen was Damon overtaking Shu at the hungarian GP in 1997 (lapping him actually) in a totally shyte Arrows.


Actually, thats probably the last bit of great GP I saw.......... 1997.


A challenge.

Post your own 'post Damon great GP moments'. Ideally, involving overtaking (ooopps, bit resticting) and not the german.


takers.....?


atb

steve


andyps - 8/9/04 at 09:49 PM

Hakinnen overtaking the Cobbler at Spa whilst they were lapping Massa for one.

Montoya overtaking the cobbler at Spa on the outside this year.

Coulthard overtaking the Cobbler at the French GP when he went on to win

....................................


stephen_gusterson - 8/9/04 at 10:07 PM

Ok

thats 3 good moments out of 7years of racing

7 x 17 (approx) = 119 races...........


atb

steve


marktigere1 - 9/9/04 at 09:30 AM

For me, the best bit about F1 'post Damon Hill' are the adverts on ITV.

Really keep you on the edge of your seat wondering what they have missed on the track

Cheers

Mark


stephen_gusterson - 9/9/04 at 10:24 AM

i used to worry about that until I realised you didtn actually miss anything cos nothing actually did happen on the track.

atb

steve


skinny - 9/9/04 at 10:26 AM

i look forwards to the after race interview where i can get inspiration and guidance on passionate & expressive communication from mr raikonnen


stephen_gusterson - 9/9/04 at 11:22 AM

and schu saying what a tougth race it was, after winning by about 25 minutes over the rest of the field


atb

steve


skinny - 9/9/04 at 12:21 PM

yeah - i was pushed really hard until the 1st pit stop... (then it turns out i carrying loads more fuel and didn't have anything to worry about)


ceebmoj - 9/9/04 at 02:15 PM

Don’t knock it till your tried it.

The combination that Ferrari have at the moment as astounding moth the team the car and the driver. There car is mesmerising and it come from hard work and dedication of the team (money helps but they have far from the largest budget out there) personally I what the other tames to get up to there level of performance (but I have a alteria motive for that) and let the other teams take it don’t give it to them with rule changes to take ferias edge. Having said that there need to be some tweaking of the rules with aerodynamics to encourage overtaking. But some good tracks like spa help with that any way.

Ps my ream had a les than gloreas finish at the last race after starting well.

blake


locost_bryan - 10/9/04 at 04:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by James
he was lapping much quicker than Raikkonen



Eh? Kimi set fastest race lap, and Schumi wasn't closing fast enough to be a threat


Peteff - 10/9/04 at 09:34 AM

and a lot narrower then it would encourage them to overtake. Oh no that's go-karts isn't it. F1's not boring, Bernie Ecclestone says so. That ain't working that's the way to do it. La la la.
I know a well known Formula1 team that still uses string! Is it holding the rear wing on James?

[Edited on 10/9/04 by Peteff]


Bob C - 10/9/04 at 11:33 AM

It's all too bloody complicated - If I was Mr F1 there would be 2 rules:
1) you have 20 gallons of unleaded
2) your car has to fit in this box
slower formulae would get less petrol.
Bob C
PS don't get me started on the olympics....


stephen_gusterson - 10/9/04 at 12:40 PM

I bet synchronised swimming and beach volleyball are your faves!

I can see a point in beach volleyball tho....



if it was in the winter olymics, you would see a couple of points.


over to you AlanB

atb

steve


Alan B - 10/9/04 at 02:08 PM

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