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getting my head around slick tyres
welderman - 27/3/14 at 10:57 AM

Ok chaps I have some 7x13" wheels fitted with 175/50r/13 tyres. I would like some slicks to fit these. Could someone point me in the right direction as to what size I would require please.

Does 175/505/13 sound right lol


loggyboy - 27/3/14 at 11:40 AM

Looks right according to this.

http://www.cargister.com/calculator-race-tires


daniel mason - 27/3/14 at 11:49 AM

175 radial slick is wider than a 175 road tyre. the (flat) surface area of the slick will be around 175mm not including any sidewall.
505 is the diamiter in mm. 175mm tread width
my radical runs 195/535 front 250/570 rear

depending on camber settings dictates crossply/radial debate and some slicks require much more negative camber than other. dunlop radials rund 3 - 4 deg neg up front. avons 1-2 deg neg. crossplys around vertical or a touch of positive!
ive just had my car set up and asked loads of questions so if you need anything just ask! cheers


Andy D - 27/3/14 at 01:03 PM

I use Michelin 16/53 on 7" rims on the front of my car, and have used 20/54s on 7" on the rear too. I now run the wider ones on 8" rims.


welderman - 27/3/14 at 01:16 PM

cheers guys, its for the mini I now have. And plan on doing a track day when its fully sorted.


CNHSS1 - 27/3/14 at 02:02 PM

you can get a data sheet on a competition tyre (slick/wet/inter) from most manufacturers. imho, its better to run a wider rim for the tyre than its designed for (about an inch) but never a wider tyre than rim as it gives an odd sensation at initial change of direction as the tyre carcass goes parallelogram.

this is a typical Avon data sheet

http://www.avonmotorsport.com/motorsport/crossply/13-crossply-slicks

http://www.avonmotorsport.com/motorsport/radial/13-radial-slick

youll notice that some tyres are nearly the same 'nominal' size and yet when you look at the actual tread with or rolling radius they are different. Often reason it one will be a control tyre for a given series (F3, other single seater etc), and they tinker with the tread area to give max rubber on the road for a control wheel size, and the sidewall construction. A light single seater 300kgs with wings and downforce, will compress a single seater construction tyre designed for use without wings for instance.


CNHSS1 - 27/3/14 at 02:04 PM

also as Daniel mentioned, radials love camber and crossplys just don't! usually run 1/2 deg neg rear and 3/4-1deg front on hills, but for circuit use and lots of laps, probably need 1/2 deg max fr on crossplies.

often near zero toe F&R too, they aint a road tyre ;-)


theduck - 27/3/14 at 08:05 PM

You have 175 tyres on a 7 inch wheel?


loggyboy - 27/3/14 at 08:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by welderman
cheers guys, its for the mini I now have. And plan on doing a track day when its fully sorted.

Worth checking before you book, as some TDs dont let you use slicks. No idea if thats enforced tho.


Doctor Derek Doctors - 27/3/14 at 08:26 PM

I've got a set of Michelins going cheap if you're interested 3x 160/5313 and 2x 230/57/13 extra discount for the welde of the Life-Taker


welderman - 28/3/14 at 08:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
I've got a set of Michelins going cheap if you're interested 3x 160/5313 and 2x 230/57/13 extra discount for the welde of the Life-Taker


Cheers for the offer fella, are the radials. Still a novice slick peep


welderman - 28/3/14 at 08:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by welderman
cheers guys, its for the mini I now have. And plan on doing a track day when its fully sorted.

Worth checking before you book, as some TDs dont let you use slicks. No idea if thats enforced tho.


HMMM, maybe have a look at some A048's then too, Ta for the heads up


Doctor Derek Doctors - 28/3/14 at 10:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by welderman
quote:
Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
I've got a set of Michelins going cheap if you're interested 3x 160/5313 and 2x 230/57/13 extra discount for the welde of the Life-Taker


Cheers for the offer fella, are the radials. Still a novice slick peep


They are radials from a Formula Renault, in good condition. Selling as I have too many sets.

Most track days let you run slicks as long as you have a roll cage, I checked before I fitted mine. Javelins and Circuits days definitely do let you use slicks.