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Whats a De Dion??
Kieran - 31/8/05 at 10:14 PM

Hello, Im new. Whats a De dion axle set uplook like? Is it possible to use the sierra trailing arms (ala Pilgrim sumo) to give IRS??

Kieran

Chris_R - 31/8/05 at 10:32 PM

This is a De Dion axel, Sierra half-shafts and tranny courtesy of GTS Tuning...



Check out answer.com for an explaination.

DarrenW - 1/9/05 at 08:52 AM

Dedion is a funny old fashioned thing that vintage cars used to use!

Kieran - 1/9/05 at 10:10 AM

Has anyone used the trailing arms from a sierra / granada sun frame. Pilgrim pivet these to give IRS on their Sumo. Why hasn't anyone done it with a locost??

Kieran

Gav - 1/9/05 at 10:35 AM

i suspect that might be rather heavy for a lightweight locost 7.

The Sumo, isnt that the cobra replica? ie its gonna have a stonking great v8 in it

chrisg - 1/9/05 at 11:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Kieran
Has anyone used the trailing arms from a sierra / granada sun frame. Pilgrim pivet these to give IRS on their Sumo. Why hasn't anyone done it with a locost??

Kieran


Erm... the ends of the trailing arms would be where your arse wants to be still I suppose you could pad them with some foam, you know, make a feature of them

Cheers

Chris

MikeRJ - 1/9/05 at 12:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kieran
Has anyone used the trailing arms from a sierra / granada sun frame. Pilgrim pivet these to give IRS on their Sumo. Why hasn't anyone done it with a locost??

Kieran


I think Joel used them in his first design. Robin Hood also use them in their 2B and Tiger use them in their Tiger Cat E1.

The rear subframe assembly from the Sierra initialy looks like it might save a lot of work, but it will require considerable chassis mods to fit, and it is very, very heavy, and also too wide. If you look at the RH and the Tiger you will see the ugly bulges in the rear wings where the subframe assembly sticks outside of the chassis. Avoid it and stick with either a live axle, de-dion or IRS as used by MK, Luego, MNR etc.

britishtrident - 1/9/05 at 02:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kieran
Has anyone used the trailing arms from a sierra / granada sun frame. Pilgrim pivet these to give IRS on their Sumo. Why hasn't anyone done it with a locost??

Kieran


Press on in an early 3 or 5 series BMW in the wet and find out why ;-)

JoelP - 2/9/05 at 05:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
I think Joel used them in his first design. Robin Hood also use them in their 2B and Tiger use them in their Tiger Cat E1.

The rear subframe assembly from the Sierra initialy looks like it might save a lot of work, but it will require considerable chassis mods to fit, and it is very, very heavy, and also too wide. If you look at the RH and the Tiger you will see the ugly bulges in the rear wings where the subframe assembly sticks outside of the chassis. Avoid it and stick with either a live axle, de-dion or IRS as used by MK, Luego, MNR etc.


Yes, i did and its poor. Its made the back end too long (cos i mounted the rubber thingy behind the seats rather than in them). Its got funny wheel geometry, and does indeed weigh a lot.

Avoid would be my advice

Avoneer - 3/9/05 at 11:34 AM

And is very low isn't it Joel!

Pat...