Hi all,

I am looking into using a set of 206 GTi wheels which Ill just about get for nothing and was wondering what modification would be required to fit them.

As far as I can tell, the PCD is the same but there are the following differences:

206 Offset: 25 ??
Sierra : 32

206: 65
Ford: 63

So I assume from these dimensions, the Peugeot wheels would have a wider track (surely this wouldnt interfere with the arches if I didnt go too wide a tyre) and the bore is 2mm wider.

I guess this isnt great as the hub wouldnt be able to offer much support but i suppose this is no different to using a spacer on alloy wheels.

Thanks for any advice, I reckon theyd not only look good when refurbed, but the price is definately right

Rgds

Rich

[Edited on 28/10/05 by RichieC]

AFAIK - Sierra offset is 32~35.

Hey - you can't go editing the original question. Makes my answer look stupid now

[Edited on 28-10-05 by Hellfire]

Opps yeh, thanks for that edited.

I thought the Pug had a wider offset ie a higher number or have I got that the wrong way around?

Thanks

Rich

The wifes escort has a set of citeron rims on at the min as I picked 4 with 4 new tyres for £50...They wouldnt go over the calipers on my 406

Main thing is the spigot ring in the center of the rim is a touch bigger so all the load and all the centering is carried by the studs...Ive had no probs at all ,But she never does more than 50mph

As for track...Depends on what axle your using ? Live axles ie mk2 escort ect had less ofset any way 18-19 mm springs to mind

[Edited on 28/10/05 by big_wasa]

I can appreciate its not best practise to have the weight being carried on the studs.

Is there any way round this short of having a sleeve manufactured?

Track wise, I thought the higher the number the wider the track? Ill be using Sierra bits at the back but depending on how much spare space there is under the arches, I cant see these wheels with say a 185 tyre on touching the arch.
Thanks
R



[Edited on 28/10/05 by RichieC]

You can buy spigot rings to make up the difference. some on ebay

Just had another thought (dangerous), what about using a spacer with the correct centre bore. I know this will make the offset even wider but providing the spacer isnt too wide, this would cure the centering issue.

Thanks

Rich

Thanks Pete, I reckon they should cure it without adding to offset - even better.

Rgds

Rich

[Edited on 28/10/05 by RichieC]

Unfortunately, the spiggot rings are made to convert aftermarket alloys (centre bore about 70mm) to either Peugeot of Ford, not to convert Peugeot to Ford. Already been down this route.

What you would need is a bit of tube 65.5mm OD with 0.75mm wall thickness. Cut to length, freeze them, heat up the Peugeot alloys and drive home!Could be done with a lathe I suppose, I would buy a set of 4 if someone got to make any.

[Edited on 29/10/05 by Mark Allanson]

What about having the Peugeot alloys milled out to the 70mm or so of an aftermarket alloy and fitting the spigots as though they were aftermarket?

Rgds

Richie

what about just buying ford alloys

Cos these are a) in my garage already and b) free

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Originally posted by RichieC
What about having the Peugeot alloys milled out to the 70mm or so of an aftermarket alloy and fitting the spigots as though they were aftermarket?

Rgds

Richie

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Originally posted by Mark Allanson
Unfortunately, the spiggot rings are made to convert aftermarket alloys (centre bore about 70mm) to either Peugeot of Ford, not to convert Peugeot to Ford. Already been down this route.

What you would need is a bit of tube 65.5mm OD with 0.75mm wall thickness. Cut to length, freeze them, heat up the Peugeot alloys and drive home!Could be done with a lathe I suppose, I would buy a set of 4 if someone got to make any.

[Edited on 29/10/05 by Mark Allanson]

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I have made spigot adapters from acetal which were really easy to turn and worked well.
If you're ever buying plastic spigot adaptors make sure they're not made from Nylon. I made that mistake once and when they got wet and swelled up, they stuck to the hub and when I pulled a wheel off, I broke the Nylon ring.

Yup, I would be in for a set

reet, I'll see if I can cadge some suitable "scrap" tube at work tomorrow and have a look at the jobbie!

My measurements are just guesses at the expansion/contraction. May be better to go for an interference fit.

will do Mark don't worry, I think the .5mm will be touch too much but Iwill make them to suit the wheels, taking into account the fact that you can't drive a 1mm wall piece of tube very hard without damaging it! A very light interference fit and loctite is probably best

some suitable tube should "become available" next week with a bit of luck as long as we reach the production run and this week.

Will be nice tool steel too!

[Edited on 1/11/05 by NS Dev]

Good stuff, keep us posted with cost and time scale

Rgds

Richie

Any update on the sleeves matey?

Rgds

Richie

Will have the tube tomorrow morning (monday) so will try and get some turned as soon as my clutch release spacer has vacated the lathe chuck!! (Tues/Wed)

got this done tonight so will try and do some spacers tomorrow nite.



cr1

Had a bit of a try out today with a sierra hub and Peugeot 206 GTi alloy, the 4 "lugs" within the alloy centre, are all in contact with the hub so I dont think the threads will be taking any undue stress.
Hope the pic makes sense, but the overlap is about 15mm (obviously less with the disc on there too)

Rgds
Richie

[Edited on 15/11/05 by RichieC]
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that does look quite a bit different to my 1.9 205 gti alloys, iirc?

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Originally posted by NS Dev
that does look quite a bit different to my 1.9 205 gti alloys, iirc?

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Update to this one.

Now Ive got the discs and everything bolted up, there is only 4 mm of wheel centre around the hub. I dont think this is going to be sufficient especially when you note that it is not all the way round, but only on the 4 lugs of the wheel centre.

I appreciate with the discs on, there is only 9mm of hub protruding through the disc anyway, but this I think is fine as it would be all the way around on the correct wheel.

Ill try and post a pic to explain it better, thought and opinions accepted.

Cheers

Rich

Pic:
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What is this distance, would probably even easier to make up a spigot that is a bit wider
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Youll see just inside your arrows, there is a chamfer, between them the bore is 65mm.

Lookin increasingly like Ill flog them and buy a set of Ford ones tbh, but depends on what can be done

Thanks

Rich

I couldn't find any Ford wheels with the offset that I need, apart from the RS type that I am using

What offset you after? Et35 for me

I've got a Xantia with alloy wheels, since Peugeot and Citroen are owned by the same parent company (PSA), I get the same alloy wheel fitment. My alloy's look similar to yours and you're right about the overlap in the centre and because of that and the fact that they use wheel bolts instead of studs they are a right pain to put on, you've got to hold the wheel in place with your foot until you've got a bolt in to hold it, it won't just sit. The most common type of wheel bolts on the Peugeot / Citroen alloys are a special type with a flat washer they have no tapered seat, you have to be careful about the nuts you use to hold your Pug alloys onto the Ford hubs.

[Edited on 30/11/05 by Kowalski]