Below dashboard covering
Slimy38 - 19/1/26 at 08:20 AM
I have two chassis members that are a bit 'visible', and I'm wondering what to do with them.
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The horizontal one within range of the passenger shin is TR9 off the Haynes plans, the one supporting the steering column is SW3. Both appear to be
within the specified zone, and I think my 'skinny' dash means that they're more exposed than on a normal Haynes build. They are
radiused just from the natural curve in the metal, but should I add something more just because of where they are?
[Edited on 19/1/26 by Slimy38]
Slater - 19/1/26 at 10:16 AM
28mm foam pipe insulation, black, from B&Q plumbing section, held on with tie wraps?
gremlin1234 - 19/1/26 at 11:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Slater
28mm foam pipe insulation, black, from B&Q plumbing section, held on with tie wraps?
I thought Pipe Lagging was specifically 'not acceptable'
so I checked in the iva manual, and this is the case but only for external projections. could be ok for under dash. //EDIT/ is not ok/
iva scn 16 Exterior Projections
"
Items such as covers unless specifically designed for the purpose
(rubber or otherwise) that are held in place by being stretched on or
attached by double sided tape or other inadequate means, rubber
hosing, pipe lagging etc are not considered acceptable methods or
materials. This not an exhaustive list but provided as guidance as to
the type of item considered to be unacceptable. "
EDIT EDIT EDIT
just checked some more, and pipe lagging is also listed as unacceptable in secn 16 Interior fixings also states
"
Items such as covers unless specifically designed for the purpose
(rubber or otherwise) that are held in place by being stretched on or
attached by double sided tape or other inadequate means, rubber
hosing, pipe lagging, etc are not considered acceptable methods ormaterials. This is not an exhaustive list but provided as guidance as
to the type of item considered to be unacceptable"
so I suggest cover with carpet...
[Edited on 19/1/26 by gremlin1234]
[Edited on 19/1/26 by gremlin1234]
gremlin1234 - 19/1/26 at 11:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
The horizontal one within range of the passenger shin is TR9 off the Haynes plans,
this one looks to have a couple of studs in the lower edge, I would cover that in carpet, and in-fact you could go from there to the bottom of dash
panel in carpet.
the next stage would be a hole in the dash, and utilise the space as a 'glove pocket']
Slimy38 - 19/1/26 at 03:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
The horizontal one within range of the passenger shin is TR9 off the Haynes plans,
this one looks to have a couple of studs in the lower edge, I would cover that in carpet, and in-fact you could go from there to the bottom of dash
panel in carpet.
the next stage would be a hole in the dash, and utilise the space as a 'glove pocket']
Ah, it probably doesn't help that the picture is quite dark. Those aren't studs, they're where the aluminium rivets to the cross member
below. So those 'studs' are actually on top of the painted-black cross member!
Overall though I think you've confirmed my fear, it does need a cover. I've got myself some black faux leather and I'll make a pad to
go over the metal.
gremlin1234 - 20/1/26 at 09:54 AM
I have enhanced the pic. I see what you mean for studs,
footwell enhanced
Slimy38 - 20/1/26 at 12:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
I have enhanced the pic. I see what you mean for studs,
footwell enhanced
Excellent, I was really struggling to do anything with the picture and using a flash for a new picture just reflected off the aluminium. That shows
the black cross bar a bit clearer now, thanks.
To be fair I've actually tried to hit it with my shin and it's not physically possible unless you've already travelled through the
dashboard to get there. And if that happens there's more things to worry about than a bruise or two. A passenger putting their feet in there
can't 'kick up' as it's solid behind the metal.
The steering column support is more of a practical thing though, depending on how the driver gets in you can slide your legs either side of the wheel,
in which case you 'could' (if you're very clumsy) bump your knee against the support. Again, during an accident you've got a
steering wheel and dashboard to cause injury long before you get to the support.
As with everything IVA related though, I see the rules as a 'fixed point' that can/should be applied to every variation of every car out
there. Just because mine needs a contortionist to injure themselves shouldn't mean I choose to exempt myself from some of the rules.
gremlin1234 - 20/1/26 at 05:49 PM
I see IVA as a minimum 'reasonably safe' requirement.
the forces in a crash are enormous, and you don't have airbags.
jacko - 20/1/26 at 06:13 PM
I would put pipe sponge and cover it with black leatherette round the vertical one
The other one i would split the pipe sponge and glue it on then cover with black leatherette
jacko - 20/1/26 at 06:14 PM
Double post
[Edited on 20/1/26 by jacko]
gremlin1234 - 20/1/26 at 06:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jacko
I would put pipe sponge and cover it with black leatherette round the vertical one
The other one i would split the pipe sponge and glue it on then cover with black leatherette
pipe lagging on its own is specifically 'not approved' but covered should be ok.
gremlin1234 - 20/1/26 at 06:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
I see IVA as a minimum 'reasonably safe' requirement.
the forces in a crash are enormous, and you don't have airbags.
to be brutally honest, after you have broken both ankles, tibia (ankles and lower leg) , at least reduce the destruction of the knees
nick205 - 22/1/26 at 03:27 PM
The box section below/left of the steering wheel - is that a standard chassis section?
If so, what have other builders done for IVA?
Could you form some Ally sheet from the bulkhead round it back to the bulkhead and cover with carpet?
The box section above the passengers feet - that must be a standard chassis section encountered by the majority to builders.
Can you cover down the bulkhead, round the box section and above the passengers feet with carpet?
Slimy38 - 22/1/26 at 05:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
The box section below/left of the steering wheel - is that a standard chassis section?
If so, what have other builders done for IVA?
Could you form some Ally sheet from the bulkhead round it back to the bulkhead and cover with carpet?
The box section above the passengers feet - that must be a standard chassis section encountered by the majority to builders.
Can you cover down the bulkhead, round the box section and above the passengers feet with carpet?
Aye it's all off the standard Haynes roadster, actually from the book as TR9 and SW3. That's why I wondered whether it was something other
builders had encountered. But doing a quick Google suggests the dashboard or bulkhead usually covers it, as you say with aly sheet or carpet.
Particularly with the one near the steering wheel, most people have their dashboard coming down to the transmission tunnel which completely obscures
it.
Over the last couple of evenings I've been making some pads that are fitted now, I'll post my results shortly once I get some pictures.
[Edited on 22/1/26 by Slimy38]
