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Best engine configuration
Normsthename - 4/5/11 at 09:46 PM

This is the $64,000 question, which is the best Three wheeled engine configuration?
I want to build a Trike similar to the MEV TR1ke, but the long wheelbase and chain drive is putting me off that design.
What are the pros and cons in having the engine front mounted, like a Pan European and driving the Rear wheel thru' the shaft etc
One crazy idea I did have was to use a V Twin engine like the Suzuki TL1000 / SV1000 and rotate it 90 degrees mounted behind the seats like the TR1ke then drive off of the gearbox shaft with prop shaft.
The engine width would be minimal, and it would keep the wheelbase down
I use Solidworks so I can play with ideas before I start to cut metal

Andy


PSpirine - 4/5/11 at 09:54 PM

As someone that has pondered this myself, you need to decide what you want out of the car.

If it's a fun thing to take on trips on a sunny day, rather than a speed machine, I'd always go for a V up front driving the rears through a gearbox/shaft. It will look superb, will have fantastic proportions (you can taper the rear in as much as you like), and will give a great sound.

If you want a fast machine, but still want something different, consider a BMW boxer twin behind the seats, but I'm almost certain this will upset the proportions out of the "pretty" area due to the 'extended arse' syndrome of mid engined trikes.

If I wanted something purely for speed/performance to be fair I'd just go for a standard setup of grafting half a bike to a spaceframe chassis, complete with inline 4 engine gearbox and chain drive.


matt_gsxr - 4/5/11 at 09:57 PM

Did you see the front engined, front wheel drive, hill-climb based, yellow trike at Stoneleigh?

It was running an aircooled gsxr1100 (actually a Bandit engine).

They claimed it was the best way.


Normsthename - 4/5/11 at 10:01 PM

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consider a BMW boxer twin behind the seats


Would the BMW boxer get enough cooling mounted behind the seats, the later models are Oil and air Cooled???
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Did you see the front engined, front wheel drive, hill-climb based, yellow trike at Stoneleigh?

It was running an aircooled gsxr1100 (actually a Bandit engine).

They claimed it was the best way.


I was at Stoneleigh, but I didn't see that

Andy

[Edited on 4/5/11 by Normsthename]


designer - 4/5/11 at 10:11 PM

This is my trike solution:

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=154803


ReMan - 4/5/11 at 10:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
This is my trike solution:

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=154803


Are you trying tobreak the internet?


blakep82 - 5/5/11 at 12:22 AM

i want to build something like this poor photoshop rendition i made
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designer - 5/5/11 at 10:27 AM

Something like the Trivette and Vigilante?

http://www.vigillante.com/vigillante1.htm


Triton - 5/5/11 at 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by blakep82
i want to build something like this poor photoshop rendition i made
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Wahey that would be a giggle as long as you don't forget how wide it is before you try to blast past folk thinking you are on a bike


Normsthename - 5/5/11 at 09:00 PM

Still not made my mind up yet which is the best setup........
In the meantime I will start to draw the standard chassis up in Solidworks
Once I have made my mind up which way I want to go, I can edit the chassis to my design
I am quite lucky in that I have lots of kit available, I built myself a CNC Plasma cutter a couple of years ago which will come in Handy for profiling the shapes

Homebuilt CNC Plasma Cutter

I also have a press brake, TIG & MIG welder amongst other things.
In my youth I was GRP Laminator which will be handy for doing the Fibreglass

Andy


designer - 5/5/11 at 10:40 PM

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I built myself a CNC Plasma cutter a couple of years ago which will come in Handy for profiling the shapes



Bloody Hell, you built that!!!


Miks15 - 5/5/11 at 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by designer
quote:

I built myself a CNC Plasma cutter a couple of years ago which will come in Handy for profiling the shapes



Bloody Hell, you built that!!!


Agreed thats impressive! And build plans for it? Seems a very handy bit of kit to have lying about!


Normsthename - 6/5/11 at 06:24 PM

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Bloody Hell, you built that!!!

Yep, designed it, built it, wired it & painted it!
I looked around the Internet at all the machines available and took the best ideas from them, similar how I will build my Kitcar!
I originally built it as a CNC wood Router, but I ended up just doing freebies for people
I then converted it to a CNC Plasma Cutter, it will cut material upto 1/2" (12.7mm) Thick

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build plans for it?


I don't have the plans for my machine, but there are lots of plans and information on this site

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/index.php

Andy


[Edited on 6/5/11 by Normsthename]

[Edited on 6/5/11 by Normsthename]