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What welder for £300?
flak monkey - 28/10/09 at 01:15 PM

On the hunt for a decentish mig. Not used every day, but will get a fair few hours use each month I would say.

I dont have the cash for a Portamig, and I think they may just be overkill for what I am going to do.

What are the Clarke 151TE or 160EN like these days? Thinking the dual polarity of the EN may be useful so I can do gasless if needed.

Also found the Lincoln Handy MIG, ERP Supermig 150 and the SWP 170C all the same sort of price new.

Basically the budget is £300 max, willing to go secondhand for a better machine as long as parts/spares are easily available.

Cheers,
David

[Edited on 28/10/09 by flak monkey]


rayward - 28/10/09 at 01:23 PM

ive got the clarke 135te turbo, and its been excellent,

does the 150 amp one work off a standard 13amp plug now, i'm sure in the past it needed a 15A supply

hth

Ray


flak monkey - 28/10/09 at 01:26 PM

Yep ideally needs a 16A supply, but thats no problem as I have a 16A socket in the garage anyway


speedyxjs - 28/10/09 at 01:30 PM

I have a 151te. Great welder but i dont really have anything to compare it to.


MikeR - 28/10/09 at 01:32 PM

I happily weld with the clarke 151 at full power through a standard plug.

Seems like an ok welder to me, but if you can afford it i believe the 160 is an all together better machine.


turbodisplay - 28/10/09 at 01:32 PM

I have the clarke 170A version.
Works well, good wire feed, as I learned from my last welder!Darren


paul the 6th - 28/10/09 at 01:36 PM

151te here, great welder (used one from the bodyshop over the road for 5 minutes once - it was horrific! proper terrible cheap thing). The clarke is nice, had it for a year & no problems yet


blakep82 - 28/10/09 at 02:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
I happily weld with the clarke 151 at full power through a standard plug.



mine didn't, kept blowing fuses. guess some are ok, some not, nut the clarke one is a great machine for the price


JekRankin - 28/10/09 at 02:54 PM

I bought a 160 after reading good things about it on www.mig-welding.co.uk/

Been very happy with it so far. Its my first welder though, so I've not got anything to compare it to.

The VAT free days at Machine Mart are a good time to get one.


Steve Hignett - 28/10/09 at 09:20 PM

151te and no probs whatsoever.


Gav - 28/10/09 at 10:41 PM

160T here and its a cracking bit of kit for the money.


flak monkey - 29/10/09 at 08:18 AM

Whats the difference between the 151EN and the 160EN?

The 160 seems to have a lower open circuit voltage which ISTR is better and a slightly higher duty cycle.

Other than that they look virtually the same other than the price?


MikeR - 29/10/09 at 08:27 AM

euro torch.


Benzine - 29/10/09 at 08:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
mine didn't, kept blowing fuses.


scottish electricity is more aggressive and drunk than english


Gav - 29/10/09 at 02:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
Other than that they look virtually the same other than the price?


Yep you right about the OCV and duty cycle, IIRC the other difference is the 160 comes with a shelf on the back for refillable bottles and an industrial regulator rather than one for disposable bottles, also the torch is a euro fitting.

[Edited on 29/10/09 by Gav]


flak monkey - 29/10/09 at 03:12 PM

Are you sure its a euro torch? Looks like all the other std fixed ones to me?

I know you can convert them but didnt think they were as std?

David


Gav - 30/10/09 at 04:15 PM

Actually your right, my bad, its not a euro torch fitting at the welder end but does take the euro torch style shrouds the ie the slip over ones not hobby style screw on ones.


T66 - 30/10/09 at 10:46 PM

I have a SIP 150Turbo , before that a Clarke 120 which was much better than the SIP.

Ive recently bought a Clarke 195TEC on wheels, its excellent.

my SIP runs on a 25m extension lead from a socket 13amp in my kitchen...

Without any problems.


However the big Clarke now has a 40amp dedicated supply on a 10mm cable.


Clarkes are good value for the money, SIP I wouldnt have again.

Poor settings options & crap wire feed


other than that they are crap ....


Mark Allanson - 31/10/09 at 08:56 PM

David,

I have said it before, I have used a Clarke 140E since 1988 and it has been a belter, some professional use for about 10 years.

However I have been lucky, you would be much better off with a second hand industrial unit, from main names like Esab, Lincoln, Migatronic, Kemppi etc. They are a real joy to weld with, all parts are easily available off the shelf.


flak monkey - 1/11/09 at 11:49 AM

Well I just won myself a Lincoln SP170 on ebay

Should be a reasonable machine, seem to get good reviews. New they are around £700 so.

Interestingly they are also rather useful for MIG brazing... apparently