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What would be a good base for this car?
Mr Whippy - 7/10/09 at 02:59 PM

If you were to make a replica (not totally exact) what would be a good source of a chassis & running gear to fit this?

I had it in mind to use a stretched Mk I range rover chassis, the rover v8 on LPG, transit van front axle converted to use leaf springs.

With a GRP over foam body shell and moulded over foam wings. Those wheels are 22in for an idea of scale.

Any ideas? Or would just building the chassis from scratch be a better option? I suppose getting the plate cut would be quite easy on a laser cutting machine...

The Falcons fine but tiny inside and not much of a family car, was thinking about building something a tad bigger



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nick205 - 7/10/09 at 03:03 PM

I'd say a small DAF or IVECO truck would be more the thing

Will it have custard guns in the boot and holes in the floor for your legs to run through?


Canada EH! - 7/10/09 at 03:12 PM

How about an old rusted out American Stationwagon 118" wheel base


MakeEverything - 7/10/09 at 03:14 PM

I reckon a ford Pop with extended chassis rails for the long front.


iscmatt - 7/10/09 at 03:19 PM

what about a london taxi? don't beauford (they are called something like that) use them?


eznfrank - 7/10/09 at 03:19 PM

I reckon my dad's old Mazda 929 estate was longer than that!


iank - 7/10/09 at 03:21 PM

I remember a replica blower bentley a few years back that I think was an unmodified sherpa van chassis. If you can do the unmodified chassis thing then not having to do IVA would be helpful with a car that shape.


MikeR - 7/10/09 at 03:21 PM

I was thinking ant hill mob!


iscmatt - 7/10/09 at 03:24 PM

or a volvo 240 estate!


iank - 7/10/09 at 03:25 PM

or alternatively what about using a chassis from these guys?
http://www.bramwith.com/


goodall - 7/10/09 at 03:39 PM

could follow the way alot of the good model t hod rods replicas are done, space frae front and a structural body tub and ladder at the back.
I imagine a jag irs or a big live axle would suit the rear pretty well and a jag v12 under the hood. Running on lpg the cost per mile be similar most cars


Mr Whippy - 7/10/09 at 03:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by iank
or alternatively what about using a chassis from these guys?
http://www.bramwith.com/


Cheers

I’ve seen the Bramwith Ford replicas before, their quite good but a bit short bonnet wise, I suppose the main body tub would be useful and save a lot of work. Though tbh I thought they’d gone bust.


Rod Ends - 7/10/09 at 03:45 PM

Jaguar XJ6 or XJ12


mark chandler - 7/10/09 at 05:13 PM

Leyland/daff pickup van type thing for me also, the have solid front axle and a chassis.

Also fitted with lt77 gearbox so change bell housing and stick in the rv8.

Maybe look for an old daff ambulance as some of these came with them at the outset, not sure about chassis on these. All the old BT ones had chassis.


Mr Whippy - 8/10/09 at 08:00 AM

thanks guys, certainly quite a few suggestions there that I had not even considered, but that's why I asked

cheers


Mr Whippy - 8/10/09 at 08:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Rod Ends
Jaguar XJ6 or XJ12


cheers thats an interesting link


40inches - 8/10/09 at 08:14 AM

Mk2 Granny/Scorpio??? Beauford use a ladder chassis http://www.beaufordcars.co.uk/the_kit.htm All the prices are POA !!!!


iank - 21/10/09 at 10:28 PM

Just remembered another kit from the past.

The Sherpley Speed 6 (20's bentley stylee)

quote:
http://car-cat.com/firm-598.html
The firm has offered the open Speed 6 tourer (based on the Leyland Sherpa 200 / Fright Rover) in the fashion of the 1920s, with a 2.3-liter or a 2.8-liter Ford Granada engine, a Jaguar XJ6 po wer plant, a Nissan engine or a Rolls-Royce unit, since 1997. The cheaper Speed 4 version (based on the Leyland Sherpa 200 / Fright Rover, a 1.7-liter / 2.0-liter Rover power plant) was rele ased in 2000


Plenty of pictures on the web, but this one gives an idea of the scale of the thing.


ettore bugatti - 26/10/09 at 04:20 PM

Here are some some blueprints of the Ford A
http://home.cogeco.ca/~deuceguy/Model_A_Scans_Main.htm

Here a side profile of the Park Ward T41





As said before getting the proportions right is essential and not easy because of the big wheels. That's why a Marlin and Falcon works and a Beauford, Sherpley and a Regent not.

When I project the interior space of a VW Beetle on the side view of the type 41 (see attachment), you need a tyre with a diameter of 900mm.
You might be able to source such dimensions with bias-ply tyres.
In the attachment the total length is an already staggering 5,5 metres. The wheelbase is 4,27 metres. Not exactly your practical runabout.

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ettore bugatti - 26/10/09 at 04:37 PM

I managed to shrink it a bit.
Now you only need a tire with a diameter of 765mm.
The total length is now 4,7metres and the wheelbase is around 3,5m. Rescued attachment mission impossible2.jpg
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Memphis Twin - 26/10/09 at 05:35 PM

Why don't you extend the JBA chassis? You've already got it, it's already registered so no SVA (or whatever it's called these days) and I'm pretty sure it's just a basic ladder chassis, so quite easy to lengthen if you're a competent welder/fabricator.


ettore bugatti - 12/1/10 at 10:09 PM

BUMP!

Two different Royale replicas.
The one is better then the other though...

http://tinyurl.com/y9o6ndq

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bugatti-TYPE-41-LIMOUSINE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ca8c114c7QQitemZ260529263815QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks#v4-36

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