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Brake Bias Bar
The Venom Project - 23/5/10 at 09:09 PM

A week ago I took this item off my car as the IVA people would have failed it. When I arrived at MNR on Saturday I was told I could refit the item as they had changed the regulations. Its no wonder people pull there hair out with worrying about the IVA test.

I have set my mind at rest now that my car will fail its initial IVA test, but hopefully within the 5 day free retest window I can fix whatever the issue's will be.


Davegtst - 23/5/10 at 09:27 PM

AFAIK there is no problem having them fitted but once set they have to be permanantly fixed (welded or threads destroyed) to get through. If not then i am getting one.


The Venom Project - 23/5/10 at 09:29 PM

Nope, new rule seems to allow them now, how bloody annoying LOL, I did remove it for a fixed bar, but now they have changed the rules.


bi22le - 23/5/10 at 09:40 PM

i have not touched my bias bar since i got the car! Its a good bragging point but im just too sacred to touch it!


SteveWalker - 23/5/10 at 09:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
im just too sacred to touch it!


All genuflect towards bi22le!


RK - 24/5/10 at 12:46 AM

I can't get mine to do anything.


AdamR - 24/5/10 at 08:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by The Venom Project
Nope, new rule seems to allow them now, how bloody annoying LOL, I did remove it for a fixed bar, but now they have changed the rules.


Are you 100% sure about that? Bias bars have always been allowed AFAIK, but only if the brakes pass at every possible setting, which is very unlikely.


cd.thomson - 24/5/10 at 08:44 AM

no definitely not allowed unless fully welded along all threads.

I was tested against the latest edition last wednesday


BenB - 24/5/10 at 09:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by RK
I can't get mine to do anything.


You can get some pills for that


marc n - 24/5/10 at 10:55 AM

quote:

no definitely not allowed unless fully welded along all threads. I was tested against the latest edition last wednesday



it was a known update that comes into effect at 9 am this morning i believe. you are allowed a bias bar assembly but the assembly once set must be fixed with a locking device to disable further adjustment. as far as im aware acceptable locking is a roll pin, lock nuts and spacers . pretty much anything that requires tools to remove.

im hoping to ring this afternoon and confirm the exact wording and will update on here as soon as i have full clarification

best regards

marc


Blackbird Rush - 24/5/10 at 11:31 AM

Mine failed on this earlier in the month as i had not disabled the adjustment (just had a locknut) i knew it would fail but wanted to bea ble to set it up at the test, as it happened it passed where it was and all needed to do was weld it up, which i have now done!

Does seam strange that they would relent on the ruling and go back to the early SVA rule of just roll pin locking the bar??

Ash.


PeteS2k - 24/5/10 at 12:16 PM

That would've saved me a lot of hassle! Had to weld it, (fail on rear brake performance), cut it off, re-set a new one and get that welded to get a pass. Less than 2 weeks ago... And they did check it, too...

Ho hum. Water under the bridge...


wicket - 24/5/10 at 12:59 PM

Gone back to how it was done in SVA days then.


eddie99 - 24/5/10 at 01:05 PM

I hope it is going back to the original SVA way.... Keep us posted!


marc n - 27/5/10 at 08:32 AM

update for you all the new version of the manual is now released ( got the email this morning ) it still says version 4 but it is infact version 5
page 84 has the information, basically a sticker will need to be attached in the area around the bias adjuster with the wording in note 6 . i am having some made , cost to anyone who needs one is £2.50 plus the cost of a stamp

new manual found here

www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_Theme_files/124_IVA_M1_Inspection_Manual__Version_4_0510.pdf]new manual[/url]

best regards

marc

[Edited on 27/5/10 by marc n]


40inches - 27/5/10 at 10:52 AM

"Note 5: Bias bars and other mechanical adjusting devices fitted to twin master cylinders must be rendered inoperable by mechanical means
e.g. lockwiring of components."
From new regs as pointed out by Marc


40inches - 27/5/10 at 10:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Blackbird Rush
Mine failed on this earlier in the month as i had not disabled the adjustment (just had a locknut) i knew it would fail but wanted to bea ble to set it up at the test, as it happened it passed where it was and all needed to do was weld it up, which i have now done!

Does seam strange that they would relent on the ruling and go back to the early SVA rule of just roll pin locking the bar??

Ash.


Drilling and wiring the lock nuts seems the easiest to do. Perhaps some one, with some engineering knowledge, at VOSA has twigged that once welded the unit is effectively foobared


David Jenkins - 27/5/10 at 11:28 AM

I've often wondered whether welding the bias bar would weaken it in any way...