After three weeks of the countries biggest gang pointing at me as they passed in the opposite direction (I thought they were being polite) they
finally had me.
With no mirrors and no front number plate they've had their work cut out. But as we both approached a mini roundabout from different directions
on came the lights.
They had a good look over the car, with me explaining it only had a 1 litre bike engine, they were pretty shocked.
But there's a problem, they gave me a producer and I haven't changed over the address on my licence.
Do I send it off quick and just explain it's at DVLA or produce the old licence ?
Cheers, Lyn.
Anyone know where the police stand on not having a front number plate?? I can't fit mine as it either overheats the car or smashes the first
time you hit a ripple in the road! Was considering having one made up and storing it in several bits in the foot well "sorry officer it was
smashed this morning!" I know legally I should have one but any idea if the police would bother stopping me??? Would rather not be as I'm
in the middle of their application process! Oli.
PS.
Sorry for hi-jack!
Best answer; didn't someone say because it's below 550kg it doesn't need a plate ? Obviously bullshit, but worth a try. Do plastic pigs
have front number plates ?
I can't put one on the front of my car because it would spoil the looks. So f**k 'em.
Lyn,
If I were you, I'd take the license along with th wrong address and say you're about to send it off. In my extensive experience they'd
rather see a licence than not, even if you tell them it's with the DVLA.
Last time I couldn't produce mine in time (student in Manchester, licence locked in student halls over summer holidays) they sent it straight to
court, no questions asked. Much larger fine and 5 points instead of 3 
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Originally posted by oliwb
Anyone know where the police stand on not having a front number plate?? I can't fit mine as it either overheats the car or smashes the first time you hit a ripple in the road! Was considering having one made up and storing it in several bits in the foot well "sorry officer it was smashed this morning!" I know legally I should have one but any idea if the police would bother stopping me??? Would rather not be as I'm in the middle of their application process! Oli.
PS.
Sorry for hi-jack!
I'd produce the old license and be prepared for slapped wrists. Just dont say you moved house 6 years ago and havent got around to sending it off. I'd hope theyd let you get off with moving house a couple of months ago, but i wouldnt push my luck any further
stick ons are no longer legal i think
thats not to say i wouldnt use one myself though
[Edited on 20/9/06 by jos]
The stick on ones are technically illegal as they don't meet the reflectivity requirements. But I've had one for years on a mini and not been pulled about it.
What about setting up a hindged system, so when stoped it hangs down from under bottom of the opening at the front, then at speed just folds away
under, woudlnt spoil the look 2 much and if u gett pulled u could just say the nut cmae loose that holds it in place
John
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Originally posted by DIY Si
The stick on ones are technically illegal as they don't meet the reflectivity requirements. But I've had one for years on a mini and not been pulled about it.
Risky at best. If they spotted it, that'd take some explaining! I'd suggest getting a sticky plate and slap it on the nose cone.
There's so many running around like it, the plod don't appear to give a monkeys about it. Some kind of hidden plate system would come in
handy for speed cameras though.
Whilst the plate should be near vertical, mine's nearly horizontal on the bonnet. MOT man raised an eye brow and passed it anyway, so I consider
it to be fine.
If it's illegal anyway, sod it.
[Edited on 20/9/06 by DIY Si]
I forgot to change my address on my licence some years ago, I got a 5 day wonder for a failed rear brake light.
When I produced I was cautioned under the PACE act and was told it was in the hands of the CPS as to what happened next. Nothing ever came of it.
It's not even a photo license, it's an old paper one, I've even got 15 points on it (kept for posterity).
Aah shite this could get sticky.
15!!!!!!!
ok heres what you do, get your self a big coat.... and hide under it.
Failing that there must be someone you can ring for aadvice, solicitor or something?
John
quote:
ok heres what you do, get your self a big coat.... and hide under it
The stick on ones might be illegal, but they used to be OK. If you have a Q plate, who'd know (apart from the fact you only had it SVA'd last week or something!)
No number plate, or an incorrect/damaged plate is a £30 fine & no points! Bargain! my front plate isn't exactly vertical (in fact nearer
horizontal), but probably generates a bit of downforce! Not been pulled - yet.
On the subject of the licence just take it in & explain you've moved & forgot to send it off, I doubt they'll do anything about
it.
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Originally posted by DIY Si
quote:
ok heres what you do, get your self a big coat.... and hide under it
What sort of advice is that? You need a big BOX, not a coat!
I can remember getting a producer and definately did'nt have my current address on my license when I went in.
I did'nt have any problems and all I did was explain the situation and my terrible memory.
Maybe I was a lucky one?
no plate clarity. since jan 1st 2004 it has been illegal for a number plate retailer in england and wales to supply self adhesive letters or a
flexible background. If you have one from before that date you are ok until it needs replacing for wahtever reason hence why plods are not pulling
people for them.
other than that just go to southern ireland ( read as internet ) or scotland for your replacement plate. the law will come to those places eventually
and in around 89 trillion years they will achieve the goal of having us all with camera friendly plates by starving supply. perhaps we should set up a
flexy plate and number exchange scheme on here
There's no need to go to such far away places. Go to your nearest sign makers and ask them to make one. I think mine was only £10-12. No eye brows raised either.
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Originally posted by oliwb
Anyone know where the police stand on not having a front number plate??<snip>
. 
TBH, it's been a very long time since I saw any number plate offences go through the Court system.
Whether they are dealt with by fixed penalties is another matter as that's nothing to do with the Court, but as far as the CPS go, I must have
only ever seen about 5 number plate offences in the 8 years I've worked at Court.
Leave the front plate off, but carry it in the passenger footwell - say it's just fallen off!
Pat...
If you court danger sooner or later you will get bitten. If the law want they could just about nick any car and any driver on the road. Don't flaunt the law you will not win, pay lip service to it and 9 time out of 10 you will get away with it. A stick on plate or a very small one would probably got you away with it or at least a ticking off with a get it fixed ticket.
As far as I'm concerned its not illegal to not have your home address on your licence. It only helps when they are behind you and get all your
details before they pull you.
I've moved around a fair bit in the last 25 years but my licence still has my mams address on it since I passed my test.
I passed a bus driver test in a RMC decker for London Transport in 1986. Even though I was living in London at the time and LT had my Twickenham
address my licence came back with my mams address on it.
And there it stays untill I die...
My old Striker had a stick on number plate on the front and still has I think. Look at Awinters avatar. In fact the rear one is stick on as well.
Never had any problem with the DVLA or any MOT's.
Steve
[Edited on 20/9/06 by coozer]
I had heard that it is an offence to have a license with an incorrect address, with a maximum fine of £400.
The Highway code (www.highwaycode.gov.uk/28.htm) states:
"Driving Licence. You MUST have a valid signed driving licence for the category of vehicle you are driving. You MUST inform the Driver and
Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) if you change your name and address. Law RTA 1988 sect 87"
The Road Traffic Act states:
"(4) Where the name or address of the licence holder as specified in a licence ceases to be correct, its holder must forthwith surrender the
licence to the Secretary of State and provide him with particulars of the alterations falling to be made in the name or address and, in the case of a
provisional licence as respects which the prescribed conditions are satisfied, with a statement of his sex and date of birth.
(5) A person who fails to comply with the duty under subsection (4) above is guilty of an offence."
That said, they would have to be pretty anal to actually pursue it. Maybe a history of 15 points would make then that anal 
Martin
[Edited on 20/9/06 by JUD]
I had the same problem with the number plate on my ST, I cured it by hanging the numberplate under the nose cone on two backflap hinges. It just folds
back if it comes in contact with speed humps and at speed it blows back and all but disapears, handy for confusing speed cameras.
Regards Kipper.
my advice is no number plate at all as russ says, £30 is a bargain considering there are no points. It will save you from the camera vans which are
the most dangerous things on the road today.
As for the address, id just go in, im sure they will appreciate the honesty. And i wouldnt really give a toss if they didnt! You wont end up in
court for such a trivial matter.