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4age Starting problem has me baffelled - help please
nib1980 - 1/10/11 at 11:58 AM

Hi,

Bit of an odd one thats got me confused.

Last night i jumped in the car and went to fill up with petrol (No problem)

Went to restart the car at the petrolstation, and nothing, tried jumping it, hitting starter and nothing, ended up getting recovered home by AA.


So today I took the starter off stripped it and cleaned it, all seemed ok, but with the motor mabe a little stiff? (dunno if this is normal)

Put starter back to gether on the car and it sounded like it would be ok with a Booster pack. Duely jump started no problems.

drove around for 30 mins, came home, turn off, and try to test a restart, and its the sounds like the staer still need a boost., put the pack on, but it made no differance.........wouldn't turn over no start



Now this has left me confused, does this sound like the starter is dying?



advice greatly recieved.


many thanks


bi22le - 1/10/11 at 12:08 PM

Does it even turn over?

If not does the starter click really quickly?


mookaloid - 1/10/11 at 12:09 PM

sounds like the battery is dieing to me


nib1980 - 1/10/11 at 12:15 PM

just and just turns over, then doesn't.

surely it wouldn't be a dying battery, if it has the same symptoms when the Boster pack is connected?


tul214 - 1/10/11 at 12:22 PM

Bad earth?


AndyRead - 1/10/11 at 12:25 PM

As Above,

Bad earth connection,


DixieTheKid - 1/10/11 at 12:30 PM

Check the following:

1) The earth strap from battery to Body.
2) The earth strap from starter motor to bellhousing (or were ever you have earthed it).
3) Check you have got contact at all those points including the battery terminals.

Hopefully this will help, did the AA man test your battery?

Cheers Chris


nib1980 - 1/10/11 at 12:38 PM

no test on the battery, he just looked and brought a low loader! lol

i'll check the earths, but again i'm intrigied why it's started now, when i haven't changed anyhting.


no one seems to think it's the starter motor dying then?


DixieTheKid - 1/10/11 at 12:43 PM

Is it just the starter thats not working or is anything else effected?


nib1980 - 1/10/11 at 12:44 PM

everything else seems fine just the starter


INDY BIRD - 1/10/11 at 12:48 PM

does it do it only when hot??

had this on a cvh was the timing to advanced?? so when got hot would not restart,

may be barking up the wrong tree


nib1980 - 1/10/11 at 12:49 PM

fair point indy bird, i can go and check, but it was the same this morning when cold, so i think not.


DixieTheKid - 1/10/11 at 12:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by INDY BIRD
does it do it only when hot??

had this on a cvh was the timing to advanced?? so when got hot would not restart,

may be barking up the wrong tree


Good point, that used to happen on my ERST. Had to change the positive lead from the battery and buy a heatsheild. Still done it every now and then thought!


nib1980 - 1/10/11 at 12:52 PM

so update now. left the battery charger / conditioner on for a couple of hours, just gone our and reading on battery has gone from 10.2v to 12.98v

starts first time.

looks like may be the battery then. (Possibly alternator)

any more tips?

many thankls

Neil


DixieTheKid - 1/10/11 at 01:29 PM

2v is really not a lot.... That should still throw over the engine.


nib1980 - 1/10/11 at 02:18 PM

all seems fine now after a test run, so i'll keep you up dated. many thank all


oldtimer - 1/10/11 at 05:29 PM

I thought 10.5 volts pretty much meant the battery was toast ????