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Battery size/capacity
andrew-theasby - 11/10/04 at 08:16 PM

Hi, im trying to hide my battery under the scuttle, but as you can imagine its a little tight. The battery im using was off my peugeot 106 and was going to be just used for testing things. What im trying to find out is what determines the spec of the battery i need? Id like to use a smaller one because the capacity probably isnt an issue with minimal electrics on the car but will it still provide enough current to turn over a big engine ie 2litre? Im thinking maybe even a 12v motorbike battery? Any reccomendations apprecited. Thanks.


Peteff - 11/10/04 at 08:44 PM

You won't turn a car engine over with a bike battery. If you want a really small battery you can get race batteries like varley red top gel batteries but they are expensive. You could use the guts from a jump starter like the ones machine mart and co. sell.


givemethebighammer - 11/10/04 at 10:48 PM

I've used a "calcium" technology type battery from a fiat cinquecento (also simlar to units fitted to various small cars i.e suzuki, kia, etc)

The calcium stuff apparently gives more cranking amps ?

anyway cost me about £30 all in from the local battery specialists

it starts my 2.0L zetec

Just call into one of these places give the person your engine details and the space you want to fit the battery into and thery will find one for you. Otherwise as Pete says the pure lead units (varley type) are very small but expensive.


MikeRJ - 12/10/04 at 09:43 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
You won't turn a car engine over with a bike battery. If you want a really small battery you can get race batteries like varley red top gel batteries but they are expensive. You could use the guts from a jump starter like the ones machine mart and co. sell.


The jump start units use a sealed lead acid battery (at least mine does) that is definately not suitable for use as a car battery, they have very specific charging requirements and pumping 40 amps in from the alternator would undoubtedly knacker it quite quickly.


Peteff - 12/10/04 at 10:02 AM

The one I have has a lead to charge it from the car accessory socket. It doesn't have any problem as I have used it for the last 7 years as a camping power pack. There is no electronic trickery in the plug, just a straightforward connection as would be made to the battery direct. Alternators only supply current when and as needed, not 40 amps whether you want it or not.


stephen_gusterson - 12/10/04 at 11:16 AM

40 amps would be a small alternator too .... my alternator IIRC is over 80 amps, and some are in excess of 130!!!

atb

steve

[Edited on 12/10/04 by stephen_gusterson]


andrew-theasby - 12/10/04 at 08:26 PM

Best bet sounds like a calcium type one then? Ill give it a try. Thanks.


Hasse - 13/10/04 at 08:40 AM

Hi,

Do you expect to be able to start when cold, ( below 0°C or so)?

If not, I would ay that a big motorcycle battery will do. (20-24Ah).

Several of my mates use 24Ah batteries to start their X-flows and Toyotas (1.6L) without problems.

Cranking a big single or twin is really just as hard for the battery as 2L 4-cyl engine.

Dont expect to be able to crank for a long time though when cold.

/Hasse


MikeRJ - 13/10/04 at 09:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
The one I have has a lead to charge it from the car accessory socket.


Ahh, mine has a proper charging circuit inside, I kind of assumed they were all simmilar.

I only mentioned the 40 Amps thing simply because directly after starting a car the charging current is very high as the battery voltage gets depressed by the starter current.