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Definitely NOT locost, but just thought I would let you know I have ordered my first batch of LED headlamps!
They are 90mm dia units, absolutely top quality & come with adjusters all mounted, they are a bare unit intended to be fitted into an existing
housing/fairing/bodywork. E marked & with correct pattern for UK dip beam, individual dip & main beam units are just 22W giving similar light
output to a 55W halogen, hence ideal for a low power vehicle or anything electric where saving over 60W of constant draw is important, plus they look
really cool!The main beam unit also incorporates a 4 led position light (sidelight)
Prices are still to be finalised, but looks like £145ea for the dip beam unit & £110ea for the main
I will get some pics up of the units when they arrive & will try to get some beam pattern shots of both these all the projector lights & HID
H1 conversions we now do in a week or 2 when I'm less busy (ha, ha!)
*cough* MOT *cough*
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Originally posted by loggyboy
*cough* MOT *cough*
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Originally posted by loggyboy
*cough* MOT *cough*
Popcorn on stand by
I believe loggyboy is correct in that LED headlights like HID's have to have self levelling & headlamp wash, that said I spoke to an MoT
garage this morning (a small garage who I generally find very knowledgeable!) who said "nothing in the manual about LED headlights, only HID -
anyway they only have LED's a as sidelights or daytime running lights don't they" I think they are wrong, but the ministry do keep
moving the goal posts!
Just discovered this note re both HID & LED headlights
"Note 4: Where vehicles are fitted with Gas Discharge or LED Headlamps there is no requirement for headlamp cleaning if the light output is below
2000 Lumens (evidence must be provided)."
2000 lumens is a massive no. I doubt any current HID's put out much above 1500, but providing I show these lights do not put out above 2000
lumens (certificate from the manufacturer is not a problem) then they do NOT have to have self levelling & headlamp wash fitted!
[Edited on 1/8/13 by russbost]
I have the old style yellow bulbs in my cars, I love them, everything looks so warm and mellow fine for the MOT too.
Modern lights make everything look cold like winter, LEDs are much the same the light is so harsh, sharp and bright but harsh
From what ive read its the lack of self leveling and washers that non OE fit HID/LED causes issues. HOWEVER arguing with myself, the wording is that
effectivey 'if installed' self-levers and washers should work.
Current MOT manual does mention LEDs
Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp
self levelling system.
Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self
levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given.
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Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I have the old style yellow bulbs in my cars, I love them, everything looks so warm and mellow fine for the MOT too.
Modern lights make everything look cold like winter, LEDs are much the same the light is so harsh, sharp and bright but harsh
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Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I have the old style yellow bulbs in my cars, I love them, everything looks so warm and mellow fine for the MOT too.
Modern lights make everything look cold like winter, LEDs are much the same the light is so harsh, sharp and bright but harsh
LED's really struggle to replicate HID lighting, the ones that come close are very very expensive.
2000 lumen isn't that hard to achieve these days, I have a 900 lumen head torch for night biking, single LED, it's like turning on the
sun.
I don't really see why whiter light would be less tiring on your eyes personally. Brighter, yes, but not whiter.
[Edited on 1/8/13 by coyoteboy]
I have LED lights on my A7. By far the best lights I've ever had on a car. They light up the road like daylight and I don't usually have to
use main beam as dipped is more than enough. It's a very natural, bright light.
Would love some on the kit but then again it doesn't get used much at night.
So cheap
You should make them to fit defenders as the current price of almost a grand is a little expensive
LED lights sound interesting..
on the subject of HID's (i have looked into this alot) there not legal in cars in this country at all..... however because of European
legislation stating we must allow road legal cars from other jurisdictions to be sold in this country, so HID's are ok by the back door.
its not legal to retro fit them at all, that said lots of folks do (in this country it has always been legal to buy some items that it wouldn't
be "legal" to use) so the regulations are slowly catching up with them. i know someone who fitted some HIDlights to a BMW 3 series and
whinged and moaned that they were crap.....his solution was to fit ever brighter HID's when i pointed out that his headlamps weren't
suitable for hid lamps and if he were to get some that were they would help he was amazed that it would make any difference.
i have no problem with folks failing the MOT if they have HID's without self levelers and washers fitted, but i hear most fail simply on beam
pattern.
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Originally posted by snowy2
i have no problem with folks failing the MOT if they have HID's without self levelers and washers fitted, but i hear most fail simply on beam pattern.