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battery cut of switch
mkblade - 11/3/08 at 07:18 PM

i want to fit a device that i can cut all power from the battery.

i was going to cur the neg lead and fit something in there (under nose cone) ive got a cut off switch (red key) but its a bit bulky anyone eles got something along these lines fitted
thanks
simon


brynhamlet - 11/3/08 at 07:39 PM

I've got on off these battery isolator switches and yes they are bulky, but don't forget your switching potentially 30A or so. I'm going to mount mine on the vertical face of the scuttle, so it protrudes into the cockpit under the dash, slightly to left of centre. Then the leads can be short and hidden under the bonnet. I'm going to break the live feed though, because if you break the negative you've got to take into consideration, you will have to break all the starter motor current as well as the running load. If you break the positive, you would still not be able to start the car as you will still disable the starter, on the low current side.
Also check the recent thread I started and the answers

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=84547


nitram38 - 11/3/08 at 07:53 PM

Unless you use the fia isolator which discharges the alternator and cuts the ign, then your engine may run on or destroy your alternator diodes


LBMEFM - 11/3/08 at 07:58 PM

As "nitram38" say's if you disconnect the battery while the engine is running you will fry the rectifiyer. See the posting a few days ago on this subject.
Barry


britishtrident - 11/3/08 at 08:19 PM

Correct MSA way to wire a battery master switch is to break the negative line.

You can get more expensive "FIA" master switches that are combined with switch contacts to break the posative feed to the igniton/fuel pump/main relay and also switch the alternator output to earth via a ressistor.

However you don't need this if the switch is purely an anti-theft device.

[Edited on 11/3/08 by britishtrident]


britishtrident - 11/3/08 at 08:23 PM

FIA Masterswitch


http://www.autoimagination.co.uk/?page=manufacturers&id=60&product=1019 Rescued attachment master switch.jpg
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dhutch - 11/3/08 at 09:29 PM

Also if you only want it to cut power while your working on it, you dont need the extra conections.
- It could also be argued that in an emergancy situation like and electracl fire, the cost of a second hand alternator is a small price to pay. Sometimes they survive, as well.


Also worth point out you can fairly easly set up a pull-cord-to-isolate setup. Which is often the simplest/neatest way to put the switch somewhere handy.


You may potentially be switching more than 30amps as well. Or certainly drawing far more than for a short space of time while starting. More like 300amps peak.


Daniel


britishtrident - 12/3/08 at 08:20 AM

You can also put a 100 or 150 amp circuit breaker in the main (+ve) feed to fuse box.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Exclusive-Parts-HK_Circuit-Breaker_W0QQfsubZ13267681QQfrsrcZ1 Rescued attachment 3da4_1.JPG
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nz_climber - 13/3/08 at 08:07 AM

I have been thinking about this to..
Wouldn't leaving the main starter wire and main alternator wire attacted to the battery work, and have the switch just isolate everything else (ecu, ignition, fuel pumps, everything else) work, this will still cut an engine when turned off, and also allow the path for the alternator current to go when engine is winding down? This means you are only drawing 30A or so through the switch, and not 100A + on start up..