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pinto wiring problem
richwill - 26/5/08 at 03:14 PM

i have wired the efi pinto this week and have a problem.
When the key is turned and the engine is cranking i dont get any spark at the leads but just as i let go of the key to stop cranking the engine i get a spark.What is the problem can anyone help?


big_wasa - 26/5/08 at 03:26 PM

Have you connected the ecu/coil feed to the acc position(yellow wire) on the key switch ?


richwill - 26/5/08 at 03:47 PM

No i have nothing connected to the yellow wire all the wires have been connected at the ignition switch as per the build manual instructions.


yamapinto - 26/5/08 at 05:01 PM

Is there any other function you can test that the ECU is getting the correct signal to trigger the coil pack, is there a rev-counter for example that would be fed from the same signal.

The ECU probably grounds its outputs to dischage them when its is shut off, hence why it gets a spark when you've finished cranking.


rusty nuts - 26/5/08 at 05:13 PM

Could be a faulty ignition switch not putting out any power to the ignition circuit when cranking. Easy to test with a multimeter.


richwill - 26/5/08 at 05:29 PM

ignition switch is working and power gets to the coil. i can ground the coil to produce a spark but it will not spark when the engine is cranked. i have tried with two other dizzy's and tfi amp packs but had no joy.


The Baron - 26/5/08 at 06:08 PM

Hopfully, here is alink to the wiring diagram that i used to get my pinto to run.

I had the same problem, it would fire, then stop when you released the ignition.

Linky


Macbeast - 26/5/08 at 11:04 PM

As far as I can see from the manual, the ignition module needs two +ve feeds:

Black/green - from the cranking feed - joined to Blue/black on the ignition switch

Black - switched ignition feed - joined to black yellow on the ignition switch.

So the black/green will get +12V when you are operating the starter

and the black will get + 12V both when operating starter and when running.

I don't know why it needs two feeds - maybe it was designed for a system (apparently not used on the Sierra)where all the ignition controlled feeds are cut while cranking to give max power to the starter:

maybe the presence of +12V on both wires tells ignition amplifier to retard the spark or speed up the decay to give a stronger spark when cranking.

In any case, you need +12V on the black wire when it is running.

I'm going to connect it as per Sierra manual
HTH


richwill - 28/5/08 at 12:24 PM

i think i have sorted it. i found a break in the signal wire between amp pack and dizzy.
Fingers crossed that i fire it up tonight.
Thanks for all the suggestions.