Step daughter passed her test just before Christmas, she likes the pug 106 for a 1st car has max £500 to spend so looking at cars 10 year plus old.
Pug experts what am I looking for when viewing this model ?
Any recommendations on a similar car, 1st car low insurance etc..... ?
twisted rear beam, ie uneven gap between rear arch and top of wheel on either side. Head gasket can go easily and need a head skim if it has as its an
ali head. cheapo cats only last a year so expect to replace if fails emmisions, also lambdas can wonder off so maybe that may need replacing? Front
brake caliper pins can be a proper pita to knock out as they are a taper design and get corroded in but ypu've only go a small area to hit ie the
top of the taper.(new kits that include the pins are easy to get, its just getting the old ones out.
Cant think of anything elso that was tricky when my lad had his T reg one, decent car really, shame he had to sell as he sold it for peanuts in the
end.
Cheers
Rich
He was 17 and the cheapest he could find was tesco ins for 1800 third party only (car cost him 700
Rear brakes can be a problem , getting the drum off can be fun . Timing belts can fail and normally bend the valves . Have had wiring break inside looms causing intermittant cutting out which took a while to diagnose. Also had a couple of injectors fail but not common
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twisted rear beam, ie uneven gap between rear arch and top of wheel on either side.
At sub £500 a Nissan Micra or lowish mileage Rover 25/200 is a much better bet.
With the Rovers for low insurance make sure its is one of the lower BHP versions (ie 81 or 83ps p rather than than the 104ps).
As British trident says a Micra would be a better bet, only real achilles heel on those is the Throttle body
The 106 and the Saxo share alot of the same problems
Also wouldn't a Micra be cheaper on the insurance ?
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As British trident says a Micra would be a better bet, only real achilles heel on those is the Throttle body
The 106 and the Saxo share alot of the same problems
Also wouldn't a Micra be cheaper on the insurance ?
A lot of Micras have gearbox faults with third gear but at 10 years they should have been fixed. The gear linkage was dodgy on my sisters 106 but it was a cheap easy fix.
I have a Saxo 1.0 ltr that my son learnt to drive in and I have used to commute to work in too, nice reliable car.
Been stood few months as he has gone University now, was going to get it up and running and sell for £500.00 in the next few weeks.
Its done aprox 70k miles on S reg. metalic blue.
U2U if you want to see some pics.
Ive done halfshafts, gearbox, exhaust, crank sensor, overheating problems and loads of rust underneath. Rust badly in the floor pan strengthening member just behind the front arches. My girls have a Saxo, a 106, a Corsa and a Fiesta, all about 10yrs old. I would take the corsa or fiesta anyday and the 106 last and only under sufferance. Little pigs.
I have had 2 106's and would have another any day ..... I don't see why people think pugs are crap
i had the 1.1 106 zest 2 as my first car was very reliable never broke down very good car ... Y reg 72,000 i gave £700 for it...
I then got the 106 Gti 1.6 16v 
i fell in love with this car it was savage for a small car ... Loved it !!
I have a pug 306 1.9Dturbo now this has done 120k but you would never believe it .. Just keeps on going i gave £500 for this car
Maybe being a girl she could get insured on a 306 1.9 D as a first car ? (306 is insurance bracket 5 and i think the 1.1 is bracket 3)
Who ever said pug's where crap hasn't driven the 106 Gti.... 
The only thing you have to watch on 106's is the torsion bar on the back as these aint cheap if they go .. Parts are cheap as chips anyway if
they do unfortunately go wrong ... I would recommend one for a first car ....
My personal preference for a 10 year old small car would be a 1.25 zetec fiesta mk4 face lift 1995-2002. Don't seem to rust badly, engine's
are quite lively (much better than 1.3 kent) and the handling is pretty good.
Bad points: wishbone bushes, back axle bushes, wheel cylinders. All cheap and easy to fix.
Davie
I bought my 17yo son a W plate pug 206 1.9d,its in group 4.
he passed his test in semptember and the insurance is
only 1500 quid.
As per the 106,its rear beams and front wishbones that are the main gripes.
Andy
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Bought daughter a Seicento Sporting and that has been a fabulous little car, 2001 and gave £450 for it. She absolutely loves and she only paid £700 as
a new driver for insurance. Also looks pretty smart having alloys, skirts and rear spoiler as standard. Pretty lively too!
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I have a 16 year old 106 D, it is as intact as when it left the factory apart from some foam and carpet cause there was a water problem which
I've fixed now.
As said, the rear beam is a problem, mine was fubbared and I got a good one off a 52 reg Saxo for £26. Rear brakes are dead easy to fix, not sure why
some say its hard??
Apart from that its a 1.5D and does 70~80mpg, dirt cheap to run indeed...
6 months tax & mot left, anyone want it for £350??
Steve
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Originally posted by richardR1
Bought daughter a Seicento Sporting and that has been a fabulous little car, 2001 and gave £450 for it. She absolutely loves and she only paid £700 as a new driver for insurance. Also looks pretty smart having alloys, skirts and rear spoiler as standard. Pretty lively too!
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How is
your daugther with?
Ours is on a Y plate, and yes those cv joints are going. Had to replace the rear axle last year, and every winter it sounds like it's in danger
of not starting (but it does)
There's nearly always a bulb blown somewhere on it, and it flattens batteries rather quick too (never had to jumpstart any other car after being
on holiday for 2 weeks)
The diesel version is a cracking engine too, all the power you'd expect from a little tinbox but I used to do a 40 mile round trip to work in it
and would use half a tank a week (£15 in 2000 money)
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Originally posted by richardR1
Bought daughter a Seicento Sporting and that has been a fabulous little car, 2001 and gave £450 for it. She absolutely loves and she only paid £700 as a new driver for insurance. Also looks pretty smart having alloys, skirts and rear spoiler as standard. Pretty lively too!
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We got our son the 899 Seicento in Aug, group 1 but i presume being a lad they charge more........ We paid a massive £2400 for his insurance
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Originally posted by richardR1
Bought daughter a Seicento Sporting and that has been a fabulous little car, 2001 and gave £450 for it. She absolutely loves and she only paid £700 as a new driver for insurance. Also looks pretty smart having alloys, skirts and rear spoiler as standard. Pretty lively too!
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She is with Bell, renewed this year and she has paid just over £800
Daughters first car was a Micra, was a car I trusted her in - she moved onto a Metro which terrified me.
Micras, common and reliable. Gets my vote.
my pug 106 was probably the best car I've ever had - it cost me next to nothing and just kept going and going...
mine was an early total poverty spec model so had no eletric stuff to go wrong and no emissions stuff to go wrong (carb'd model)
other than the usial stuff the one thing that does need looked at on all 106's and saxo's is the chassis rails near the front - they always
seem to rust and you'll end up needing to make repair patches like these:
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Originally posted by richardR1
She is with Bell, renewed this year and she has paid just over £800