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Morning,
I'm contemplating on changing my 59 plate mondeo titanium x 2.0 diesel. The reason being is I just can't justify having a diesel for the
type of journeys that my misses does, which consists mainly of short school runs, short trip to work and the same again on an afternoon. Its currently
returning 33mpg which is just not acceptable. My dilemma is what to change it for? I've got 2 kids aged 7 and 11, we also do a bit of glamping so
the extra space of the mondeo is ideal. I don't want to spend anymore money so whatever I got for the mondeo is what I would spend so circa £7 -
£7.5k. Initial thought were maybe a focus estate petrol or maybe a 1.6 diesel, just not sure if the 1.6 diesel would be any better. So what can the
collective come up with that would fit the bill?
Cheers
Leon
My 2.0 mondeo 58 plate, returns 40-45 MPG average, and in the winter only does a few miles a day
in the summer, with longer journeys, goes up to 48 ish
does the oil cleaner of fuel filter need changing?
steve
Its recently had a full service so I would imagine the fuel filter and oil filter were changed. Could it be the dpf that needs cleaning i wonder?
or should that be egr valve that may need cleaning as opposed to dpf? I don't really have much knowledge of diesels.
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We have a Nissan Note 1.5 diesel. Had it for almost 2 years and have done 20k in that time and it has averaged 58.1 mpg....... The rear seats can slide backwards or forwards to give you almost limo like space for rear seat passengers or a cavernous boot. Nicely equipped with cruise, sat nav etc. Got ours from CarGiant in London, paid around £7k
Bloody hell thats cheap
I paid £2k for my 56 fiat, boot is enormous, record is 16 pallets...
Bought to in 2011 4 years old, ( regged Jan 2007) with a problem.. New dpf required so quietly removed it and the egr valve.
It does 46mpg round the doors and stoneleigh last year was 54.
Ugly as sin but who cares!!
1996 pug 106 1.5d did 75mpg.....
Is a 59 Mondeo Titanium really worth £7k? I bought my 59 2.0 tdci Edge 3 years ago for £8k.
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Originally posted by whitestu
Is a 59 Mondeo Titanium really worth £7k? I bought my 59 2.0 tdci Edge 3 years ago for £8k.
Beware Nissan Notes ------------- they eat front tyres particular bad on the models with steel wheels as the tyres are an odd ball size and expensive, they also go through front wishbones and springs like they were going out of fashion.
If you're only doing a few miles a day, why is the economy of any importance? Such short trips won't be doing the car any good at all though, and replacing it with another diesel won't improve this.
No i know that but just wasn't sure If a smaller engine'd diesel would of been any better. Preference at the moment is petrol. The economy
isn't all that important as I know i won't get 50mpg with any car around town its more the fact that I know its not doing the car any
favours.
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Originally posted by MikeRJ
If you're only doing a few miles a day, why is the economy of any importance? Such short trips won't be doing the car any good at all though, and replacing it with another diesel won't improve this.
Have you had a look at the basics - check the EGR system isn't blocked, ideally blank off the EGR valve completely. Put a can of BG244 cleaner through the system, etc.
Strangely enough I've been doing a bit of reading up and the egr valve crops up quite a lot, does the blanking off assist a great deal? Is BG244
a fuel additive?
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Have you had a look at the basics - check the EGR system isn't blocked, ideally blank off the EGR valve completely. Put a can of BG244 cleaner through the system, etc.
The EGR valves can go sticky due to carbon build up and then you're effectively driving around town re-burning your exhaust gasses with a
generally nasty mixture, leading to poor MPG. The blanking/sandwich place will mean that regardless of its position, it's effectively closed off
and you'll only ever burn clean air and diesel. It's the EGR that can cause most of the particle emissions that end up blocking your DPF,
so you're on to a double-win.
Depending on the make/model, your ECU may have pressure sensors to detect a blocked EGR valve, and the car will throw a check-engine light when a
blanking plate is fitted. 
eBay is full of the plates - you'll get one for £5 I dare say.
BG244 is just a fuel additive. It's not cheap, but highly rated. Chuck it in your tank and drive around for couple of hundred miles...
What mpg do you get on a 'run'? Try it, if its still poor I'd suggest sorting the problem with the Mondeo.
My dad had issues with poor mpg on his 59 diesel - he had a leaking O-ring on one of the injectors;very easy fix.
Ive got an 09 Galaxy with a 1.8 diesel and that MPG figure sounds about right for stop start mileage.
Cheers,
Bob
Hi
Take it for a good long, hard, drive.
The DPF systems need to get properly hot, regularly, to work properly - it's possible you might find you can save it..
Then / Or get rid - totally the wrong sort of motoring for a modern diesel - if you're not doing Motorways or long journeys at least once a
fortnight, forget them, you need to be looking at 15k miles a year+ & mostly on fast roads sort of area.
Lots of short journeys Petrol is the way - nice Mondeo Estate would probably do