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205 GTI off to look this weekend
nick205 - 16/12/15 at 01:47 PM

Well, my 205 GTI has been dry stored by my dad.

Not being able to drive until August 2016 gives time for reflection and a possible rebuild. I'm off to look at it this weekend and see how committed I am to it. A rebuilt car would be a joy, but some cash in the bank would also be nice as well.

On the +ve side a rebuilt 205 GTI will be fun, keep my hands oily and a reason to drive again

twybrow - 16/12/15 at 02:20 PM

I miss mine. Brilliant fun cars to drive and simple to work on - an added bonus that they are now appreciating which must be nice. Is yours fairly stock Nick? If you rebuilt, would you do any upgrades, e.g. MI16 or GTi-6 swap?

ChrisW - 16/12/15 at 02:20 PM

We need photos! I'd love a 205 GTi in the collection, ideally Mi16 converted.

nick205 - 16/12/15 at 02:31 PM

One rebuild item is the engine. An Mi16 would be nice, but TBH a standard engine seems to be worth more these days.

nick205 - 16/12/15 at 02:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
I miss mine. Brilliant fun cars to drive and simple to work on - an added bonus that they are now appreciating which must be nice. Is yours fairly stock Nick? If you rebuilt, would you do any upgrades, e.g. MI16 or GTi-6 swap?


It is my 3rd such car and yes driving was a different game in those days, less traffic and more space.

nick205 - 16/12/15 at 02:57 PM

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nick205 - 16/12/15 at 03:14 PM

One of my worries with the engine work is wet liners and disturbing/reseating them - I think if it's worth doing it better be done fully!

owelly - 16/12/15 at 04:10 PM

I had a few 205GTis but preferred the 309. I had a few of them too.

nick205 - 16/12/15 at 04:35 PM

Always saw the 309 as a 205 with a dodgy boot

HowardB - 16/12/15 at 04:35 PM

miss mine too, had a 1.6gti,. it was standard as standard, sounded great and was brilliant fun to drive.

used to spend a lot of time grinning,. also had a stupidly huge boot for such a small car!

nick205 - 16/12/15 at 04:44 PM

They were practical in the boot area, helped by the rear torsion beam setup, which gave a flat boot floor.

olberj - 16/12/15 at 04:59 PM

Recently purchased myself a gti6 car to run about in. Great reliving my early 20s again.



Needs rear beam raised and a few polybushes fitted and a good tidy up. Diesel 5th too would be nice. 1.6 box is quite buzzy on the motorway. Group N engine mounts are great.

Exhaust knocks on the floor idling stone cold. The dash rattles. I had to dye the bumpers black. It needs paint.

But i feckin love it.

Never gonna be original so awfy tempted to do some real individual stuff. If the engine goes bang it's having a v6 stuffed up it's chuff.

nick205 - 16/12/15 at 05:07 PM

Brother in law has a GTI6 converted rally 205GTI - very nippy by all accounts.

nick205 - 16/12/15 at 05:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by HowardB
miss mine too, had a 1.6gti,. it was standard as standard, sounded great and was brilliant fun to drive.

used to spend a lot of time grinning,. also had a stupidly huge boot for such a small car!




My first two were 1.6s, great fun to be in and around!

jelly head - 16/12/15 at 05:51 PM

I prefered the 1.6 to the 1.9, seemed like a terrier, up and at em.

Would have another like a shot if i'd the space and the missis wasn't looking, although i'm not sure if my nipper could cope with the lift off oversteer these days on the road.

There were a few times where i'd overstepped the mark and ended up facing the wrong way (luckily without twatting anything).

Ah to be a 'boy' racer again....

CosKev3 - 16/12/15 at 06:08 PM

Never had a 205gti, but had three 309gtis and a 306 Rallye.

The last one I had I converted to a Gti6 engine,awesome car with that engine in it

CosKev3 - 16/12/15 at 06:21 PM

Nickp - 16/12/15 at 06:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by owelly
I had a few 205GTis but preferred the 309. I had a few of them too.


Me too, the 205 was frantic fun but the 309 seemed to handle better, more stable.

CosKev3 - 16/12/15 at 06:53 PM



ChrisW - 16/12/15 at 07:21 PM

Well if we're talking v6's and 306's I still have this stashed away to one day be put back on the road...

Testing again... my cabrio!
Testing again... my cabrio!

It's got a 3.0 v6 from a 406 coupe stuffed in it.

Chris

perksy - 16/12/15 at 07:51 PM

Had a 1.6 and a 1.9 205 GTI and the 1.9 is the only car I ever regret selling


Always used to cheer me up after a bad day at work and in the wet on the standard michelins was more than a bit entertaining

snapper - 16/12/15 at 07:55 PM

I had the 309 1.9 GTi and was reliably informed that the little bit of extra weight behind the wheels made it better on the limit
I still ran out of talent and had to rebuild it though.

CosKev3 - 16/12/15 at 10:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by snapper
I had the 309 1.9 GTi and was reliably informed that the little bit of extra weight behind the wheels made it better on the limit
I still ran out of talent and had to rebuild it though.


The 309gti runs a wider track too than the 205 front and rear

mark chandler - 16/12/15 at 11:08 PM

I had one, cheaply made, noisy fan but you could kick it to make it shut up, lots of nasty plastic.....

XR3i was a much built car IMHO

nick205 - 17/12/15 at 08:36 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by snapper
I had the 309 1.9 GTi and was reliably informed that the little bit of extra weight behind the wheels made it better on the limit
I still ran out of talent and had to rebuild it though.


The 309gti runs a wider track too than the 205 front and rear



A popular mod on the 205 is to fit 309 wishbones and rear beam to get the wider track.

Personally I put it down to driving it more and learning when/where it gives up.

nick205 - 17/12/15 at 08:42 AM

The more I think about it, the more I want to rebuild it

mark chandler - 17/12/15 at 10:27 AM

Unfortunately the days of finding an old Citreon BX GTI to provide the 16v engine for £100 are long gone now.

nick205 - 17/12/15 at 11:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Unfortunately the days of finding an old Citreon BX GTI to provide the 16v engine for £100 are long gone now.



You'er not wrong there!

Mi16 motors are getting harder to find these days and I believe GTI6 motors are heavier too.

Mr Whippy - 17/12/15 at 12:39 PM

I mind a friend who had one, when refitting the head mistook degs for ft pounds and sheared of the head bolt somewhere inside the block, was the end of that car. Next thing he's chopping the car up with a petrol stihl saw!!

nick205 - 17/12/15 at 12:44 PM

Now that's a worry, read carefully!

olberj - 17/12/15 at 03:52 PM

I had a lemon of a 1.9 gti i stripped parts off for the mi16 and then we spent a day chopping up the shell with grinders etc. Putting a pick axe through a windscreen is great fun.

Had videos but it was that long ago the resolution was terrible. Now i think back what a rust free 1.9gti shell coukd be worth. Doh!

Btw mi vs gti6. Mi is a red line chaser, gti6 more low rev torquey like the 1.9 8v. Can't say I've noticed that much difference in weight. Mi felt faster but probably due to less shell weight and stupidly short gearing.

Can you still get new gearbox parts from Peugeot?

CosKev3 - 17/12/15 at 04:21 PM

The Mi16 engine is alot lighter than the Gti6 engine,due to the Mi being a full alloy engine.the Gti6 eng is cast iron block.

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by snapper
I had the 309 1.9 GTi and was reliably informed that the little bit of extra weight behind the wheels made it better on the limit
I still ran out of talent and had to rebuild it though.


The 309gti runs a wider track too than the 205 front and rear



A popular mod on the 205 is to fit 309 wishbones and rear beam to get the wider track.

Personally I put it down to driving it more and learning when/where it gives up.


If you stand directly behind a 205gti and look at the wheels the rear track is narrower than the front,hence the break away rear end!
Fitting the 309 rear beam equals up the front and rear track,and the 309 front wishbones gives them a bit of negative camber.

nick205 - 17/12/15 at 05:15 PM

Given the age of them, rust is a fact of life - can be terminal, but can be removed and repaired.

nick205 - 18/12/15 at 08:53 AM

Peugeot UK have one of these for sale (saw it at the NEC), just £250,000 - what happens when it goes bang!