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femster87 - 31/12/15 at 07:38 PM

Anyone converted an ex-racer g40 to a road car yet? Is it possible. Can you still call it a ginetta?

Brook_lands - 31/12/15 at 07:47 PM

Ginetta do it - G40R

femster87 - 31/12/15 at 07:56 PM

Ha, I know, ex racers are cheaper even with the cost of IVA

james h - 31/12/15 at 08:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by femster87
Anyone converted an ex-racer g40 to a road car yet? Is it possible. Can you still call it a ginetta?


Certainly has been done. I spoke with the owner of GTS-RS, who used to race them and now has a road legal one as a promo car.

A photo of it:

bi22le - 1/1/16 at 01:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by james h
quote:
Originally posted by femster87
Anyone converted an ex-racer g40 to a road car yet? Is it possible. Can you still call it a ginetta?


Certainly has been done. I spoke with the owner of GTS-RS, who used to race them and now has a road legal one as a promo car.

A photo of it:



That would look so special on the road and super unusual.

Ugg10 - 1/1/16 at 08:11 AM

G40 should be no problem, several already registered. Was surfing the net and came across this alternative.http://www.factoryfive.com/kits/project-818/ interestingly it is scooby mid engined, looks interesting, wonder who will be first to import one?


Brook_lands - 1/1/16 at 10:12 AM

quote:
Originally posted by femster87
Ha, I know, ex racers are cheaper even with the cost of IVA


Seriously, and I don't know how serious you are about doing this, but ex racers will have had a very hard life. This is the life-mileage programme for the G40 as per the Ginetta build manual

SUSPENSION

Suspension wishbones 5000 km
Anti Roll Bars and anti roll bar drop links 5000 km
Suspension ball joints 3000 km
Front hubs 10000 km
Rear hubs 10000 km

STEERING

Steering column and track rods 5000 km
Steering rack 10000 km

CONTROLS
Brake pedal 5000 km
Chassis to Engine installation bolts 5000 km

WHEELS, TRANSMISSION and STARTER MOTOR
Wheel rims 5000 km
Wheel bearings 5000 km

SYSTEMS
Wiring Loom 10000 km
Water Radiators & Oil coolers (unless fins getting damaged) 10000 km

This is based on race Kms not road Kms but doing that lot on an ex racer is a far bit of cost and work before you get into the IVA stuff which would probably not be too bad.

What you would present it as though because officially its not a self build vehicle, would it get a Q plate or could it be classes as a new vehicle?

femster87 - 1/1/16 at 10:30 AM

Interesting, I am not bothered about the consumables. Just what it will get registered as. Q plate would be a bit of a shame

rm0rgan - 1/1/16 at 10:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ugg10
G40 should be no problem, several already registered. Was surfing the net and came across this alternative.http://www.factoryfive.com/kits/project-818/ interestingly it is scooby mid engined, looks interesting, wonder who will be first to import one?




Like the look of that.

I was toying with the idea of getting a G40 for the road but personslly id get an Exige - better supported and probably a safer place to stick your money.

3 years and 40,000 miles later i sold my Exige for the same as I bought it - should have got another straight away as nthe prices are only going up.

Brook_lands - 1/1/16 at 10:41 AM

I guess it would class as a rebuilt vehicle for registration purposes so probably Q plate.

femster87 - 1/1/16 at 10:49 AM

Thanks. New ones are 33K+ Vat. That way you definitely lose a wack on resale

[Edited on 1/1/16 by femster87]

Brook_lands - 1/1/16 at 11:05 AM

The £33,300 + VAT does include a year's racing in the GRDC Championship its "only" about £26k + VAT without the race programme.

coyoteboy - 1/1/16 at 05:33 PM

quote:

Q plate would be a bit of a shame


Don't understand the negativity toward Q plates, it's a nonsense in my mind.

femster87 - 1/1/16 at 05:40 PM

Its not a negativity,it looks really odd when you see it on a new car. Enough to significantly affect its resale value. When you are spending close to 20k on a car I don't think having a q plate is a bonus

[Edited on 1/1/16 by femster87]

coyoteboy - 1/1/16 at 05:50 PM

Anyone who knows anything about cars will know what a Q plate is and it will make zero effect. If you're looking at selling it to bob down the road because its a nice car, sure, it might confuse them a bit.

femster87 - 1/1/16 at 05:54 PM

I understand that. but I don't keep cars for longer than 5 years. The q plate will narrow the potential purchasers to those who know what they are on with. Even with them, the offers will be silly.

[Edited on 1/1/16 by femster87]

james h - 1/1/16 at 08:36 PM

I'm confused here. The photo I showed of the G40 (ex-racecar) isn't on a Q-Plate, but someone said one would have to be?

femster87 - 1/1/16 at 09:05 PM

Some of them were registered and sold with a years racing cost included as explained in the thread.

james h - 1/1/16 at 09:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by femster87
Some of them were registered and sold with a years racing cost included as explained in the thread.


Hmm maybe I don't quite get it then, because from my conversation with the owner, I was under the impression that this one actually raced and then was converted - not sold with a year's racing cost included.

Brook_lands - 2/1/16 at 10:08 AM

The G40 comes in 3 flavours that from the outside look very similar. There is the Ginetta G40 Junior, the G40 and the G40R; the last one being road registered and comes with a new car registration number

All 3 are eligible to race in one or more race series.

I'm sure that with some work both a G40 Junior and a G40 could be road registered at some stage after the time they have been raced.

james h - 2/1/16 at 11:05 AM

The one I saw had a 1.8 zetec if that makes it clearer as to which one it is.

Brook_lands - 2/1/16 at 11:35 AM

The 1.8 zetec is used in all variants. Juniors have 6 speed sequential boxes and 100 bhp, G40R have H pattern Boxes and 135 bhp, G40 (GT5 spec) are 165 bhp with 6 speed sequential boxes. G40R tend to have a rear wing as well.