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Spanish MOT??
pewe - 12/7/24 at 03:11 PM

A friend in Spain has carried out a renovation/update on his 70's Jeep.
It's Spanish registered and has previously passed their equivalent of MOT.
The test centre has now declined to test it as the seats and harnesses aren't original.
Unfortunately he no longer has the originals.
He's thinking of bringing it back to the UK for testing but I reckon that's fraught with loads more difficulties, the least of which is getting it cross border/s.
Any suggestions please?
TIA. Cheers, Pewe


adithorp - 12/7/24 at 07:40 PM

A UK MoT (even if it can be done here**) won't be accepted in Spain will it?

**Can a none UK registered vehicle be logged into the MoT computer system?

Modified cars can be an issue in some euro countries. Is it worth looking I to how things like rally cars get around it?


overdriver - 14/7/24 at 05:17 PM

The Spanish ITV (MOT equivalent) uses the manufacturers' Certificate of Conformity (CoC) as the basis for the vehicle being as per specified. I would doubt that seats and harnesses would be listed in the CoC (particularly for a 1970s car even if a CoC exists). It is possible that the tester noticed that the seats/belts are obviously a modern addition and therefore condemned the vehicle for being 'modified'.
It would be worthwhile approaching RACE (Royal Automobile of Spain) for clarification of what changes are freely allowed and what changes need approval (homologation). Homologation requires certification that the work was carried out by a professionally qualified technician. My understanding is that changes to the interior of the vehicle which do not compromise the safety of occupants do not need approval. One further suggestion is to approach a different test centre as this can bring about a different result. Alternatively, source some original seats and fit them purely for the ITV. You see so many cars here (Mallorca) with wider than standard wheels and modified exhausts but you can be sure that the owners retain the originals for the test.
I sold my Tiger Supercat prior to moving here as I knew there would be registration difficulties. Imagine my frustration when I discovered my neighbour runs around in his Caterham!


pewe - 15/7/24 at 08:56 AM

Thanks for the suggestions guys.
I'll pass them on.
It never ceases to amaze me the font of knowledge on this forum - long may it continue.


Alez - 27/9/24 at 02:01 PM

Sorry for being so late but I've been experiencing login issues...

Thoughts:

- Forget about a CoC on a '70s car.

- ITV stations are very inconsistent with each other and regulations. Always good to try more than one.

- Classic-savvy repair garages are worth approaching. Commission one to pass your ITV. They know how to handle these things.

- Modified cars are a no-no in Spain unless the mods are shown on the paperwork. Any mods you want to introduce, you have to do through a specialist who knows how to deal with the process (it involves a tech report on the mods and so on). Some require inspection, that's owner takes car to their premises, lately many do the whole thing online with owner sending pics, etc.

- I don't recommend approval of mods as above because then your car is officially not original and as a consequence not elligible as historic. If poss, best to revert to original every year just for ITV. Like in the UK, historic has a number of advantages and exemptions.

- I'd try to source old seats that fit and look alright (they won't know if they're factory). Maybe you can even get away with no seat belts at all, just remove the harnesses. Your goal is that the car looks as it may have left the factory like that (all the bits look reasonably period correct).

Alex