Track day rentals
Dooey99 - 17/1/13 at 09:37 PM
Hello me and a friend are starting a garage and we have been looking into track car rentals.
How much would people look to pay to hire a locost type car or maybe a vauxhal vx220 for a day, remembering the cost of a track day place at a race
circuit this would include full track side support and maintenance during the day and transport of the hired car to the circuit.
Any comments or suggestions are welcomed.
austin man - 17/1/13 at 09:47 PM
check out red letter days there are companies already doing it
theduck - 17/1/13 at 10:32 PM
Red letter days are not the same as what is being suggested.
Have a look at the nurburg rental sites for comparisons.
bi22le - 17/1/13 at 10:54 PM
if i was tempted ten the price would include track hire, fuel, good video and sound, hire of a car at least as fast as mine.
to do all of above at brands with my car is 300 ish. so i would want to pay 350ish for a day.
Ninehigh - 17/1/13 at 11:17 PM
By the sound of that £350 is a good price, I guess dependant on the exact car
matt_gsxr - 17/1/13 at 11:54 PM
Interesting googling to see what the companies charge for this.
http://www.trackdays.co.uk/car_hire_experience/
£626 for the car (R300 Caterham) + the cost of the trackday.
Quite pricey then!
gaz_gaz - 18/1/13 at 06:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
if i was tempted ten the price would include track hire, fuel, good video and sound, hire of a car at least as fast as mine.
to do all of above at brands with my car is 300 ish. so i would want to pay 350ish for a day.
Good luck with that. £350 is massively unrealistic. Its aimed at people who don't have a car of there own to use.
Your looking at 300 for a caterham r300 for an evening session on brands indy plus the day
Your looking at 625 to 700 depending on time of year for an r300 full day at brands indy plus the day
Similar price for snetterton etc.
Check out the bookatrack website. They have prices for car hire next to all there days. Done a lot of bookatrack days and there cars are always
booked out.
gaz_gaz - 18/1/13 at 06:49 AM
Blyton hire out a Roadrunner sr2
Focused Events hire a tiger R6 so maybe worth looking at there prices too.
bi22le - 18/1/13 at 12:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by gaz_gaz
quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
if i was tempted ten the price would include track hire, fuel, good video and sound, hire of a car at least as fast as mine.
to do all of above at brands with my car is 300 ish. so i would want to pay 350ish for a day.
Good luck with that. £350 is massively unrealistic. Its aimed at people who don't have a car of there own to use.
Your looking at 300 for a caterham r300 for an evening session on brands indy plus the day
Your looking at 625 to 700 depending on time of year for an r300 full day at brands indy plus the day
Similar price for snetterton etc.
Check out the bookatrack website. They have prices for car hire next to all there days. Done a lot of bookatrack days and there cars are always
booked out.
£700!! Glad I have my own car. Thats 2 weeks all inclusive somewhere hot. . . . .
TimC - 18/1/13 at 01:09 PM
It's not quite the same but Allied Motorsport charge the following for Locost races.
Includes...
Locost Race Car Hire
Race administration assistance
Pre-meeting car check
Transport of race car to & from the venue
Race Fuel
Scrutineering assistance
Consumables - oil, water, brake fluid etc
Trackside Support
Refreshments
Accident indemnity, covering accident damage.*
Fees Single Race Meeting - £545.00
This is therefore in addition to the entry fee.
gaz_gaz - 18/1/13 at 01:43 PM
For 2 x 20 minute races and a qualifying session?
Expensive business
thefreak - 18/1/13 at 01:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by gaz_gaz
For 2 x 20 minute races and a qualifying session?
Expensive business
Not really if you think about it.
You get a fully prepp'd car for £545 a round
If the championship is 10 rounds, that's just under £5500.
There's not many race cars you can build for that 
Plus you're covered for damage, you're not if you're racing your own car.
Obviously this doesn't take into account selling the car on afterwards which will make you some back, but if it's something you can't
store, or want to waste the spare weekends fiddling with, it makes it a decent option for someone who wants a bit of fun without the overheads.
Similar to buying a car on one of the hire/purchase deals. Drive the car for 3 years for £200 a month then give it back.
TimC - 18/1/13 at 04:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by thefreak
quote:
Originally posted by gaz_gaz
For 2 x 20 minute races and a qualifying session?
Expensive business
Not really if you think about it.
You get a fully prepp'd car for £545 a round
If the championship is 10 rounds, that's just under £5500.
There's not many race cars you can build for that Plus you're covered for damage, you're not if you're racing your own car.
Obviously this doesn't take into account selling the car on afterwards which will make you some back, but if it's something you can't
store, or want to waste the spare weekends fiddling with, it makes it a decent option for someone who wants a bit of fun without the overheads.
Similar to buying a car on one of the hire/purchase deals. Drive the car for 3 years for £200 a month then give it back.
That is very true - also consider 'depreciation' suffered on some race cars; as with new kit builds where this number can be pretty mega
too. For example, there's probably c.£6k that I wouldn't expect to get back from the build cost on mine. Alarming but true. Naturally
this doesn't happen in quite the same way if you buy a used car as someone else has taken the major hit on the depreciation curve but it helps to
add useful context.
morcus - 18/1/13 at 10:32 PM
Going back to the OP, have you looked into insurance and rules for your customers incase anything happens?
Have you considered mabey starting with a stripped out and prepped hot hatch as you'd have less at stake and you could learn by doing and work
your way up as it were?
yozza - 19/1/13 at 12:23 AM
Hi
I looked into this for a team building type lads day out and the big downside was the indemnity cost (£2000 on my credit card) refundable if
undamaged. Anywhere around £500 a day for a tiger R6 with about 20 minutes in each hour for 2 or 3 people I.E. each person would get 20 minutes every
3 hours or 10 minutes every 1.5 hours! Expensive if someone wraps it around the armco. I ended up buying a hot hatch and just thrash it with my work
mates when we get a chance. Ideally I would rent one but dont want to risk a few grand if it gets damaged. A cheaper option on the insurance would
certainly get me interested.
Good luck
Joe
gaz_gaz - 19/1/13 at 08:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by thefreak
quote:
Originally posted by gaz_gaz
For 2 x 20 minute races and a qualifying session?
Expensive business
Not really if you think about it.
You get a fully prepp'd car for £545 a round
If the championship is 10 rounds, that's just under £5500.
There's not many race cars you can build for that Plus you're covered for damage, you're not if you're racing your own car.
Obviously this doesn't take into account selling the car on afterwards which will make you some back, but if it's something you can't
store, or want to waste the spare weekends fiddling with, it makes it a decent option for someone who wants a bit of fun without the overheads.
Similar to buying a car on one of the hire/purchase deals. Drive the car for 3 years for £200 a month then give it back.
I never said it was over priced or not good value for money.
Motorsport is an expensive business.
Not even Daniella Westbrook could spend £600 for 90 mins fun.
I looled at hiring a car for this years cscc tintops but decided against it as I wanted the car avaliable for test days and trackdays so I could have
seat time whenever I wanted. Currently half way through my build and already spent 4 times the cost of hiring a car for a year.
eddie99 - 19/1/13 at 10:06 AM
Theres different ways of looking at it....
For the person who works long hours Monday - Friday, lives in a city with no garage. Got a family etc..
Having someone store, prep a good car, take it to the track, then look after him while hes at the track. Then the above prices are extremely cheap. A
decent arrive and drive in a caterham for a race weekend is £3k. Admittedly that is a bit pricey but it soon adds up when you've got a big
truck/trailer to tow and to pay a couple of guys for a weekend.
If you've got your own track car, then you will see it different because you put all those hours in for nothing to look after a car.