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Matt21 - 14/11/15 at 07:46 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3317420/Petrolhead-splashes-75-000-building-dream-car-s-TWICE-powerful-1m-Bugatti-Veyron-s-got-no-roof-sides.h tml


TimC - 14/11/15 at 07:59 AM

What dreadful journalism.


rdodger - 14/11/15 at 08:10 AM

I think he can now be expecting a visit from the BIB.

How do you spend £75000 on an Exocet?


jelly head - 14/11/15 at 08:16 AM

There are some benefits to living in the South Yorkshire Police area with that front number plate


Dopdog - 14/11/15 at 08:29 AM

HORRENDOUS


kj - 14/11/15 at 08:30 AM

Sure it was in last month complete kit car mag


Bluemoon - 14/11/15 at 08:37 AM

I would not believe a word of it, unless you know the guy; journalist are not that great at accuracy


02GF74 - 14/11/15 at 09:12 AM

It is hard to believe. 188 mph from a 1.6 engine with no aerodynamic aids?


gaz_gaz - 14/11/15 at 09:15 AM

75k??


RichieW - 14/11/15 at 09:39 AM

I think I would have put some of the money towards building a bigger garage.


russbost - 14/11/15 at 09:56 AM

It has nice headlights!

I would have thought that video was good for a nicking, unless you can show it to be on the Isle of Man! I certainly wouldn't post anything like that, begging for it!

[Edited on 14/11/15 by russbost]


steve m - 14/11/15 at 10:03 AM

Totally misleading news item, as I was expecting a 2000bhp monster not a few round bars welded together and a mazda 1.6 engine

and a weight of 485 kgs ? not exactly light, compared to some cars


kj - 14/11/15 at 10:04 AM

Like the comment I need to wear a full ace suit and neck brace


blakep82 - 14/11/15 at 10:25 AM

"Supercharged"... Looks like a turbo to me!

Doesn't look like its had an iva? That front would surely fail


van cleef - 14/11/15 at 10:28 AM

Same one me thinks.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig1MNWeM_Hw


mark chandler - 14/11/15 at 10:41 AM

Looks like a tidy build, just needs clothing to finish it.

Performance is 'optimistic', although not on this planet!


russbost - 14/11/15 at 10:51 AM

If it was correctly IVA'd then I would guess it had bodywork on then.

Re the reporting, well it is from the Daily Mail - the Furore has been in there more than once & I don't think they've ever got much right in the way of facts other than my name!

0 - 60 in 2.1 secs? I can only say the tyres must be made of glue! which is going to hamper the top speed a little - 192mph, more like around 130 I would think, it has the aerodynamics of a flying brick!

It does however look as though it's been very nicely prepared & put together & all kudos to the owner for that, I can assure you having been in the same position he has NO control over what the Daily Mail write whatsoever - the Mail won't even have been to see him or even have spoken to him, the report will have been done by a local journalist who will have sold the basic story to the Mail, they will then construct whatever garbage suits them around it, I don't suppose the owner ever said it was more powerful than a Veyron or that it would do 192mph, he may have said it had a better power to weight ratio & a theoretical top speed of 192, but that is quite different!


maccmike - 14/11/15 at 11:00 AM

Fair play to him I say


BenB - 14/11/15 at 11:06 AM

True- newspapers are never very good at getting facts right.
Still can't work out how £75k. Really struggling.
And the only way that'll go over 130mph is if you pushed it off the back of a Hercules.....
Needs some bodywork.

Reminds me of this:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/hx5Es0bnulM[/youtube]


BenB - 14/11/15 at 11:08 AM

Okay, that's not working.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx5Es0bnulM


bi22le - 14/11/15 at 11:29 AM

He he that article is funny. Barely a true fact in it.


sdh2903 - 14/11/15 at 11:58 AM

Turned down an offer of 100k from dubai. Yeah right!!


clairetoo - 14/11/15 at 12:01 PM

I know the guy - its got one of my subframes on it - and yes , he has spent an insane amount of money on it......but as far as I know , its not correctly registered or IVA'd........


coyoteboy - 14/11/15 at 12:17 PM

A lot of those parts are nicely polished and pretty. Relatively easy to blow cash on pretty, pointless add ons to make you smile. Still don't see how you could hit 75k, even with a sequential box, custom diff and fully forged engine and mapping I'd be amazed if you passed 25k


02GF74 - 14/11/15 at 12:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
I know the guy - its got one of my subframes on it - and yes , he has spent an insane amount of money on it......but as far as I know , its not correctly registered or IVA'd........


Hello claire, hand healed and fully working?

Are you able to ping the builder, wed all like to know more about the build, costs, performance etc so he can join here and put the doubters (inc me) straight or point to a blog.

It is a tidy and impressive build but 75 k?

Dont see any number plate but videos on public road seems a bit naughty.


clairetoo - 14/11/15 at 01:30 PM

The hand is about as good as its gonna get - a bit of lost feeling and movement (titanium pin in place of one joint) but you wouldnt know at a glance - some fantastic stitching has left very little scarring .
I'll point him towards this forum - I did have a few long discussions with him about getting it registered , he had no clue at all about IVA when he was building it ! So it hasnt been built with IVA in mind..........


benchmark51 - 14/11/15 at 02:20 PM

I think that a few chains are being yanked here.


43655 - 14/11/15 at 03:02 PM

I despise the daily mail, what utter garbage

- 75k spent, and using mazda subframes?

- 188mph with no aero at all?? would be sketchy at best I expect!

- and is that a stock Exocet chassis then?

Sounds like a lot of money wasted, why not a turbo 13b or something, in a custom FEA'd chassis with better thought out suspension


CraigJ - 14/11/15 at 05:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by russbost
It has nice headlights!

I would have thought that video was good for a nicking, unless you can show it to be on the Isle of Man! I certainly wouldn't post anything like that, begging for it!

[Edited on 14/11/15 by russbost]


That's the A628 Woodhead pass so a long way from the IOM


Matt21 - 14/11/15 at 06:08 PM

Maybe the speedo was showing 188mph, but it obviously didn't have a speedo healer and the gearing had been altered dramatically!


kitcardirect - 14/11/15 at 06:47 PM

Nice seats though i wonder where he got them From

Looks a rapid little engine though,


Toys2 - 14/11/15 at 08:17 PM

... and that works out at 473 BHP from a 1.6 Mazda, hard to believe unless it's reving to bike like rpms?


43655 - 14/11/15 at 11:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Toys2
... and that works out at 473 BHP from a 1.6 Mazda, hard to believe unless it's reving to bike like rpms?


It is turbo'd, I do believe that

I can't get over the fact the Daily Fail seem to think 473 is more than 1006 though
Shouldn't get would up, why are we looking to this joke for car news, I thought stuff like CarThrottle was garbage enough


alex1991 - 14/11/15 at 11:59 PM

I like that it has awful Toyo T1R tyres. If he has skimped on tyres and cheap Rota wheels I can't see him spending £75k in total.


Adamirish - 15/11/15 at 12:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 43655
quote:
Originally posted by Toys2
... and that works out at 473 BHP from a 1.6 Mazda, hard to believe unless it's reving to bike like rpms?


It is turbo'd, I do believe that

I can't get over the fact the Daily Fail seem to think 473 is more than 1006 though


If they were told the power to weight was more than a veyron, they would probably just think that must mean more power!

Just to add, there is nothing wrong with Toyo T1R's. I have them on my kit and they are more than good enough for road use. I also have them on my tin top. I also put them on my home built 2.0 fiesta. They offered far more grip than the pirellis that were on it beforehand as well as being ALOT cheaper.


Matt21 - 15/11/15 at 07:19 AM

Hopefully the builder will come and join up and answer a few questions for us! I'm sure the daily mail has made a lot of it up!

And I hope the £75,000 build cost is made up too, I really struggle to see where the money has gone.

Still, it's a good build regardless of what figures are quoted


jeffw - 15/11/15 at 08:18 AM

2.1 0-62MPH....on Toyo T1Rs hahahahahhahaahha


This is a complete "Walter Mitty" car


gaz_gaz - 15/11/15 at 09:22 AM

So the reporting is a long way off but fair play to the fella that built it,
He looks to have made a better than average job in a pretty confined space, Couldn't have been easy!!


CosKev3 - 15/11/15 at 09:34 AM

I'm sure it's says theoretical top speed?so that would just be worked out off the gearing etc,so bodywork/aero dynamics won't have made much difference!

Very very risky posting videos like that if it's not road legal

quote:
Originally posted by Adamirish


Just to add, there is nothing wrong with Toyo T1R's. I have them on my kit and they are more than good enough for road use. I also have them on my tin top. I also put them on my home built 2.0 fiesta. They offered far more grip than the pirellis that were on it beforehand as well as being ALOT cheaper.


They are a ok mid range budget tyre with a nice tread

[Edited on 15/11/15 by CosKev3]


Matt21 - 15/11/15 at 12:48 PM

It does say the car has reached 188mph though, which I still find very unbelievable.

Pretty dangerous too seems as though T1Rs are only rated to 149mph


indykid - 15/11/15 at 01:07 PM

You lot should write for the daily mail. They're Dunlop SP sports, not T1Rs.

Still, it's wee poor reporting. I bet the lad that built it is cringing at that story.


beaver34 - 18/11/15 at 10:47 AM

nice to see people and fellow enthusiast getting behind a builder and offering praise for what he has done

ohh wait.....


Nickp - 18/11/15 at 11:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CraigJ
quote:
Originally posted by russbost
It has nice headlights!

I would have thought that video was good for a nicking, unless you can show it to be on the Isle of Man! I certainly wouldn't post anything like that, begging for it!

[Edited on 14/11/15 by russbost]


That's the A628 Woodhead pass so a long way from the IOM


Yeah I spotted that too, coming down towards the Flouch roundabout


kj - 18/11/15 at 11:38 AM

I seen a post on facebook calling it a stripped down Aerial Atom


Slimy38 - 18/11/15 at 12:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
nice to see people and fellow enthusiast getting behind a builder and offering praise for what he has done

ohh wait.....


I'm reading this thread as more of a Daily Mail bashing, which I heartily endorse...


scootz - 18/11/15 at 01:06 PM

He's seems to have put his car together nicely and if he's happy, then I'm delighted!

... but the claimed cost, the claimed speed he's ran it at, the claimed offer from Dubai... bollox!


russbost - 18/11/15 at 01:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by kj
I seen a post on facebook calling it a stripped down Aerial Atom


He should count himself lucky, that's a compliment! I have had someone suggest that I had made modifications to a Caterham to create the Furore!!!

I mean you can really see the similarities, they are almost like twins!

In all seriousness if anyone on here has contact with the guy (Claire?) then they really should let him know about the IVA situation & if he has access to remove that video, then I'd get it down quick, I can't see any way that isn't a nicking. If the car is running round on the Mazda reg then it is obviously completely illegal, & with no front no. plate I'll be surprised if he doesn't get tugged sooner rather than later. I was really hoping he'd join the forum to defend himself & we could have offered him some sensible advice

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if the car isn't correctly registered then don't DVLA have the right to impound it & if they should so decide, crush it?

Re "nice to see people and fellow enthusiast getting behind a builder and offering praise for what he has done " I said "It does however look as though it's been very nicely prepared & put together & all kudos to the owner for that, I can assure you having been in the same position he has NO control over what the Daily Mail write whatsoever - the Mail won't even have been to see him or even have spoken to him, the report will have been done by a local journalist who will have sold the basic story to the Mail, they will then construct whatever garbage suits them around it, I don't suppose the owner ever said it was more powerful than a Veyron or that it would do 192mph, he may have said it had a better power to weight ratio & a theoretical top speed of 192, but that is quite different!" which I think is fair & I think most people have been bashing the Mail rather than the owner, & the Mail thoroughly deserves bashing!


kj - 18/11/15 at 01:39 PM

On facebook there is a few video's i would love to see the reg plate.
It would be a lot of work to add the body work for IVA and then remove and fill the holes.
I am not sure if the article in complete kit car states it was two built for that value


scootz - 18/11/15 at 01:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by kj
On facebook there is a few video's i would love to see the reg plate.
It would be a lot of work to add the body work for IVA and then remove and fill the holes.
I am not sure if the article in complete kit car states it was two built for that value



There's pics of the car with the plate 'L888 UUD' front and back.

He says he's had a knock on the door from the police re. the video posted. Claims it's all above board and the car has been IVA'd.


Ben_Copeland - 18/11/15 at 02:07 PM

There's no such plate according to MyCarCheck

Other people have also commented on the standard of welding on the chassis in some of the pictures


quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by kj
On facebook there is a few video's i would love to see the reg plate.
It would be a lot of work to add the body work for IVA and then remove and fill the holes.
I am not sure if the article in complete kit car states it was two built for that value



There's pics of the car with the plate 'L888 UUD' front and back.

He says he's had a knock on the door from the police re. the video posted. Claims it's all above board and the car has been IVA'd.


russbost - 18/11/15 at 02:11 PM

"Other people have also commented on the standard of welding on the chassis in some of the pictures " I've also seen that, but surely it's a standard Exocet chassis, I'd be surprised if there was much wrong with the welding on that?


RichieW - 18/11/15 at 02:28 PM

I suspect its no more badly welded than most other Locost type frames. He has just been honest (and sensible) enough not to grind the welds down


kj - 18/11/15 at 02:40 PM

Free Car Check Report for L888UUD
Vehicle Identification
Manufacturer: Mazda
Model: Not available
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Fuel Type: Not available
Engine Size (CC): Not available
VIN: Not available
V5C Issued: Not available
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Nowt to worry about.