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'the tool'?!
mark_rayfield - 25/1/03 at 09:31 PM

much mention is made in the photo archives of 'the tool'. It apears to be everyone's best friend, but photos of the beast itself are proving elusive.

Could someone point me in the right direction?

cheers guys


fastenuff - 26/1/03 at 08:51 AM

The tool for me it is the angle grinder with a rotating wire brush fitted.
be aware of bit flying about though


RoadkillUK - 26/1/03 at 04:22 PM

This'll be it.

The Tool


Jasper - 26/1/03 at 08:30 PM

Gets my vote every time - keeps you on your toes when the bits start sticking in your leg too!!


robinbastd - 26/1/03 at 10:02 PM

Just bought one of those
Was told I'd look and feel like a porcupine after using it!
Ian


mark_rayfield - 27/1/03 at 01:02 AM

cheers for the help and health warnings!


Simon - 27/1/03 at 08:54 AM

Mark,

Just to be clear, you absolutely MUST use goggles using it.

Bear in mind bits of wire fly off at over 160 mph.

I thought I had a mutant hair growing out of my leg till I looked at it - was a piece of wire that had gone though jeans!!

Like I said if you wear nothing else, WEAR GOGGLES!!

Happy Cleaning!

ATB

Simon


CairB - 27/1/03 at 08:58 AM

I had a problem when rotary wire brushing heavily rusted parts. It took the rust off into brown dust in some areas, other areas had the apperance of being rust free but had picked up metal from the wire brush and been polished, giving the appearance of being clean. It becomes apparent when hit with chisel. I ended up grit blasting. It might be down to the quality of the brush. Anyone else had similar experience?


kingr - 27/1/03 at 03:25 PM

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I'd also recomend wearing a respirator or mask of some sort, gloves and possibly ear protection of some sort. The reason for this is a) rust is coming off the piece, and going into the atmosphere, rust, or in fact, any particulates, are not good for you at all. Looking at the state of my respirator after a comparatively short time of bevel brushing, the surface is quite heavily coated in dirt. b) if it knocks bits of metal off in no time, it'll knock skin and bone off in even shorter. I was wearing enormous thick leather welding gloves (thicker than I use for welding in fact), and due to the fact that I had to remove the guard to fit the brush, at a particular angle my glove made contact with the wheel, knocking away a not inconciderable ammount of leather. I wouldn't want to have my finger there, c) tinitus isn't pleasant and neither is hearing loss.

Sorry for the health and safety lecture, and I know it's not the most pleasant thing wearing ten tons of protective equipment, but it's worth being informed.

Kingr


Jasper - 27/1/03 at 04:18 PM

Seconded - just blow your nose after using it to see the sh*t you've been breathing in......


stephen_gusterson - 27/1/03 at 08:05 PM

i think the tool is in a thread about miserable caterham owning bastards


atb

steve


chrisg - 27/1/03 at 10:39 PM

Observational comedy Steve,

I like it

Cheers

Chris


stephen_gusterson - 27/1/03 at 11:11 PM

its also a test.

is he actually reading all the posts or just winding up people in that thread?

if he posts here, then he's a saddo like he thinks the rest of us are.........

atb

steve


Liam - 30/1/03 at 11:34 PM

I've got two 'tools'. One's the wire brush version, and the other is an ultra-violent version made of evil plaited strands of much thicker wire. It could strip the armour off a tank and is quite scary to use - I wouldn't consider not using goggles and gloves at the very least. I've not used them for a couple of weeks, but only the other day I got stabbed in the foot by a bit of wire that hid in my shoe.

Just one thing - make sure you get nice balanced ones. I must have been unlucky with my first ones - the wire brush had quite a lot of unpleasant vibration, but I could live with it; the ultra-violent one was so much on the wee that it nearly shook my grinder apart and was impossible to hold for more than 30 seconds, even with thick gloves. Probably didn't do the bearings much good - lucky it's a Makita . I took the tool back and the guy suggested it was maybe cos they're designed for 9" grinders which go a fair bit slower than my 4.5" grinder. I wasn't having any of that and got a new one. It runs as smooth as a cutting wheel - well nearly. Now on my second wire brush tool and thats just as smooth. So there you go - unless your tool shop has a good returns policy, bring your grinder to test your 'tool' - or maybe I was just very unlucky (which would be typical).

Liam


James - 11/2/03 at 11:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by kingr
b) if it knocks bits of metal off in no time, it'll knock skin and bone off in even shorter. I was wearing enormous thick leather welding gloves (thicker than I use for welding in fact), and due to the fact that I had to remove the guard to fit the brush, at a particular angle my glove made contact with the wheel, knocking away a not inconciderable ammount of leather. Kingr


Clamp down what you're working on (if it's small anyway) I didn't when 'tooling' a CD sized disc of metal by just holding it down on the bench with one hand and grinding with the other.
The 2p sized scar on the back of my hand (6mths later) where I slipped is proof enough that clamping and wearing more than just latex gloves is a must!

Also, it took bloody ages to later unpick all the latex glove from the brush! (And stop bleeding for that matter!)

HTH,

James


Mark H - 11/2/03 at 11:50 AM

James,

I would have thought just turning the tool back on would have cleared bits of latex/skin from its wires?

Not clamping the disc could also have cut you a front bottom if it had slipped out, which would have been unpleasant!


bob - 11/2/03 at 06:31 PM

Your not wrong there mark,i had a very very scary moment where THE TOOL left its machine spindle at speed


Peteff - 11/2/03 at 07:15 PM

I was using my portable drill on a small clip by holding it down on the bench, next instant the 3mm drill was through my left pinky still spinning. I pulled it out along with the finger filling and went to casualty where they told me I was lucky to have missed the bone and tendon. I was only feet from the vice so I cannot offer any excuse for my stupidity. I use the vice now.

yours, Pete.


johnston - 11/2/03 at 08:18 PM

one of the cotractors that does alll the buildin stuff for my work was tellin me wen they were refurbhing one of the other buildings one of the guys drilled a screw through a wooden plank and straight through his finger nail

the funny bit was wen he relised he dropped the drill and couldnt get it out and had to stand attached to this plank until the rest decided to stop takin the wee and let him down


kingr - 12/2/03 at 02:35 PM

Ah, the fun stuff you can do to yourself with power tools eh? Worst thing I've seen is my sister cut a slot about 1/4 inch into her finger with a band saw, makes me shudder even now.

Kingr


johnston - 12/2/03 at 06:20 PM

guy i rent shed off took his thumb off with a table saw gets paranoid wen any1 else goes to use 1

[Edited on 12/2/03 by johnston]


johnston - 13/2/03 at 12:11 AM

this thread puts a whle new take on

It cost me an arm and a leg to build


James - 13/2/03 at 11:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mark H
James,

I would have thought just turning the tool back on would have cleared bits of latex/skin from its wires?



No, was a bit too wedged in for that! May have been because it was one of the inferior 'non-twisted' brush types (all that was available in a hurry).

Bob,
When I first used The Tool I noticed that although it tightens up with use it can also unscrew when you turn it off. I learnt to use a 14mm bolt to prevent this!
I had an amusing conversation with the 'tool specialist' in the shop where I'd bought my grinder from and had happened to mention to him about it unwinding.
He couldn't conceive that if running the grinder up would tighten THE TOOL then turning it off could unwind it. He reckoned my angle grinder must be running the wrong direction!

James


Rorty - 15/2/03 at 04:58 AM

There's a bloke here in Melbourne, who specialises in making custom exhausts for Porsches. He has been hospitalised 3 times for huge gashes to his inner thigh/stomach inflicted by a 4 1/2" angle grinder running a 9" cutting disc, and , needless to say, no guard.


Wadders - 15/2/03 at 02:52 PM

Nice! if youv'e ever been unfortunate to nick yourself with the angle grinder,you'll know the wound is weird,almost a cross between a cut and a burn, and for some reason they always go gammy before healing, can't imagine the pain of digging one into the gut, ooouch!

Al


Originally posted by Rorty
There's a bloke here in Melbourne, who specialises in making custom exhausts for Porsches. He has been hospitalised 3 times for huge gashes to his inner thigh/stomach inflicted by a 4 1/2" angle grinder running a 9" cutting disc, and , needless to say, no guard.



jollygreengiant - 15/2/03 at 03:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by johnston
guy i rent shed off took his thumb off with a table saw gets paranoid wen any1 else goes to use 1

[Edited on 12/2/03 by johnston]


Thrapston secondry school woodwork teacher, New intake 1971 being shown around the woodwork room and all the tools, Finally comes to the bench/table saw, first he shows everyone the correct way to do it, Then, god knows why, he shows everyone the WRONG way to do it. ............. Yep he cleaned his thumb off in one, said oops, grabbed his hand with the other and left rapidly muttering something about a hospital. Looking back now it was as funny as **** but I do take a fair ammount of care with tools as a result.


RoadkillUK - 15/2/03 at 05:19 PM

Excellent way to get his point across, hope he got paid well

[Edited on 15/2/03 by RoadkillUK]


johnston - 15/2/03 at 08:09 PM

quote:

Then, god knows why, he shows everyone the WRONG way to do it



is that wat they mean by do as i say not as i do ????