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Stott - 13/2/09 at 09:32 AM

Just came across this, must be worth it though as it's been valued at £6400-£6500 twice...............................

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/886383.htm


l0rd - 13/2/09 at 09:41 AM

Advertised at 245BHP

estimated at 200+

On this Diesel?

Some people have loaddddsssssssss of imagination.


l0rd - 13/2/09 at 09:43 AM

Also

Lowered elbaic suspension ( vey good) plus brand new spring, both front shocks, and one rear shock

I don't recall a brand caleld elbaic for suspension. Am i so far behind technology?

Just one rear chock!!!!!!!!!!!

So much money wasted on NOS etc and he couldn't afford a second one?



[Edited on 13/2/09 by l0rd]


Mr Whippy - 13/2/09 at 09:43 AM

Just a boring shopping trolley, the old granny down the road might be interested in it


nick205 - 13/2/09 at 09:43 AM

It's difficult too fathom out what most of the advert means, possibly written in sub-dialect of Max Powerish.

"More torque than a Boxster" - it's still a 206 diesel though

I can never understand how people can spend ££££s on cars like this when they could have spent the same money in one go on something that was better in standard form....?


eznfrank - 13/2/09 at 09:47 AM

What puzzles me most is why it's in the Skoda Fabia section??


vinny1275 - 13/2/09 at 09:47 AM

Might be a really silly question.....

but does NO even work in an oil burner? Never heard of that before...


Mr Whippy - 13/2/09 at 09:51 AM

quote:
Originally posted by vinny1275
Might be a really silly question.....

but does NO even work in an oil burner? Never heard of that before...


It'll work on any engine as it’s just an extra supply of oxygen allowing more fuel to be added and burnt. Blindingly basic system really don't know why folk have it in such awe.

Engine will still sound like a tractor though. You could spend 20k on a car like that and still no one would give it a seconds glance in a car park.

[Edited on 13/2/09 by Mr Whippy]


l0rd - 13/2/09 at 09:53 AM

First of all:

Why is it a advertised as Skoda? Fabia?

This was retrieved from the web:

Maximum power 89.2 PS (88.0 bhp) (65.6 kW)
@ 4000 rpm

as Standard


This was retrieved from Ecosse:


HDi Tuning ECU (Stage 2)
A fully programmable ECU that takes contol of the fuelling requirements. Works in hand with Stage 1 and allows gains of up to 55bhp over standard. Also allows dash switchable control between standard and modified maps. Call to find out if these are compatible with your car. Price includes fitting and rolling road tuning and print outs.

£550.00+vat (£632.50) Each

55BHP over standard

which gives us a total of

145BHP

So the NOS gave it another 65-100BHP


tomgregory2000 - 13/2/09 at 09:55 AM

NOS does work in an oil burner.
I like the fact that it is in the skoda section
But it does seem that he doesnt have many reciepts?
And its a crappy 206, i hate these cars with a passion, had to drive one to cardiff and back from southampton in an eve/night but i did get to watch some speed way in the stadium


l0rd - 13/2/09 at 10:14 AM

Is there any way you can get these figures by just reprogramming an ECU?

If it is that simple, and spend only £650 to get an increase of 55BHP I'll get one.


Steve P - 13/2/09 at 10:29 AM

quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000

But it does seem that he doesnt have many reciepts?



Also nice of him to point out to mr taxman that ecosse do cash deals.


dinosaurjuice - 13/2/09 at 10:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by l0rd
Is there any way you can get these figures by just reprogramming an ECU?

If it is that simple, and spend only £650 to get an increase of 55BHP I'll get one.


Yep, about £650-800 will get approx 140hp from a 90hp Hdi. thast about the limit without spending big money upgrading pump and injectors.

Its not a special car, theres probably hundreds of re-mapped Hdi's about. dont know where the £6.2k comes from...


l0rd - 13/2/09 at 10:42 AM

I know diesel engines are a lot stronger than petrol ones but still isn't there a limit?

How reliable an engine like this will be?


r1_pete - 13/2/09 at 12:01 PM

If its cheaper and faster than a a GTI180, then why is he looking to swap it for one??


DarrenW - 13/2/09 at 12:07 PM

So lets get this right.

His friend sold the car to him then left the country. Engine rebuilt at 60K- either a bad engine or car has been thrashed to within an inch of its life.

The garage where loads of money has been spent has said car is worth a lot.

Its way cheaper and faster than a GT1 180 - they must be OTT too then.

Its got 2 superchips fitted - strange, i thought you could only fit one at a time.


l0rd - 13/2/09 at 12:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW

Its got 2 superchips fitted - strange, i thought you could only fit one at a time.


indeed you can have only one and will get one but you pay for two.


cd.thomson - 13/2/09 at 12:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by l0rd
I know diesel engines are a lot stronger than petrol ones but still isn't there a limit?

How reliable an engine like this will be?


TDOC members tend to talk about 100hp/ltr maximums before you need to change the stock internals.


l0rd - 13/2/09 at 02:55 PM

So this car is allready a scrappy one as it is advertised as 200+ hp

Hence all internals should be damaged.


cd.thomson - 13/2/09 at 03:00 PM

Although I agree that I wouldnt touch this with a barge pole and the figures appear to be very generous I do believe he could achieve a 200hp+ output from the engine using stock internals if this was achieved for short periods under NOS injection.

I cant remember if it stated it had a significant intercooler or water injection, but a lack of either of these would instantly make the figures impossible IMO, IIRC.


scootz - 14/2/09 at 09:14 AM

£6200... he's avin a larf! Half of that would still be too much!


mr henderson - 14/2/09 at 11:07 AM

Sort of heavily modified(ish) and he's got it insured group 5


scootz - 14/2/09 at 11:26 AM

I thought that too... wouldn't want to test his insurance co on that one!