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Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 09:29 PM

well, i'm a bit bored, so... which way do you swing?


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 09:35 PM

i'm greedy - like a bit of both lol


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 09:38 PM

hehehe, same here, tis the way forward


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 09:40 PM

way i see it is this - got better odds on pulling when out on the razz


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 09:41 PM

hell yeah, and i need it

edit: some nosey git is disputing that statement. cock off

[Edited on 1/3/04 by Staple balls]


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 09:46 PM

u nutter

lmao


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 09:50 PM

9 votes....


JoelP - 1/3/04 at 09:54 PM

that'll be the closet heterosexuals.... getting thin on the ground nowadays...



[Edited on 1/3/04 by JoelP]


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 09:55 PM

hehehehehe


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 10:10 PM

pmsl - its you alex who keeps viewing to see more votes, and then getting the muff on when there aint none



Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 10:12 PM

i'm only refreshing every 2 mins or so


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 10:13 PM

seeeeeeeeee

you manwhore lol


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 10:14 PM

i may be the whore....

least i'm not the client


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 10:16 PM

bitchy put yer handbag away before the strap breaks off from swinging it round to much. lol


Carl.H - 1/3/04 at 10:17 PM

I’m getting worried about you lot

You need to get your selves some good straight porn
non of this back door stuff


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 10:18 PM

pmsl - the lezbo's on this vid are getting it good and proppe from the bloke accompanying them - not that i've watched it in a while *cough cough*


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 10:19 PM

ahh, but this is where being Bi rocks.

we just get sex with everyone....


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 10:22 PM

note - everyone that is willing. lmao


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 10:24 PM

this is why man invented alchyhol

[Edited on 1/3/04 by Staple balls]


Viper - 1/3/04 at 10:25 PM

Anything between 16 and 60, blind, crippled or crazy


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 10:27 PM

hehehehehe


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 10:31 PM

and people say we need to get out more? lmao


Carl.H - 1/3/04 at 10:42 PM

i think it's best for everyone if you stay inside


bob - 1/3/04 at 10:45 PM

couldnt do the gay stuff,cant stand pain.



[Edited on 5/3/04 by bob]


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 10:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bob
couldnt do the gay stuff,cant stand pain.


hehe, hate that bit myself, but then a hole's a hole's a hole.

[Edited on 1/3/04 by Staple balls]


Alan B - 1/3/04 at 10:54 PM

Shocked that I may have some serious competition for the official forum pervert...

[Edited on 1/3/04 by Alan B]


DavidM - 1/3/04 at 10:55 PM

Anything for me as long as it's breathing.

Or am I being too fussy?


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 10:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
Shocked that I may have some serious competition for the official forum pervert...


you have nothing on me

http://www.stapleballs.co.uk

the name has a reason


flak monkey - 1/3/04 at 11:04 PM

Hehehehe, think the title should go to you Stapleballs

Well I voted straight.... damn you greedy bi people

And my girlfriend has a fascination with Amy Lee (lead singer of Evanescence)

David


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 11:05 PM

hehehehe

you really *really* don't wanna see my other site


Carl.H - 1/3/04 at 11:08 PM

You’ve gone and done it now what’s your other site


flak monkey - 1/3/04 at 11:08 PM

Yes we do.....

Now you said that....

David

[Edited on 1/3/04 by flak monkey]


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 11:09 PM

you really don't wanna see it, it's just one picture that you do not want to see


flak monkey - 1/3/04 at 11:11 PM

You dropped yourself in it now.....come on....we wanna know

David


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 11:12 PM

you really don't wanna see. ever.

[Edited on 2/3/04 by Staple balls]


flak monkey - 1/3/04 at 11:18 PM



Well we asked...

David


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 11:18 PM

eye bleach will be available after the viewing


OX - 2/3/04 at 12:53 AM

every holes a goal


blueshift - 2/3/04 at 03:17 AM

the hair.. the hair..

*claws at eyes*


Metal Hippy - 2/3/04 at 03:33 AM

And I thought this forum had stooped as low as it could go.

Funny stuff yes, rude stuff within reason...

But this hammers down all decency and craps on it's grave.

So much for it being a f*cking car building community forum.

It's turning into a pile of shite.

Give me a shout when it's back to being half normal.


sgraber - 2/3/04 at 04:29 AM

I'm with Hip-ster on this one. Please guys, clean it up a bit.


JoelP - 2/3/04 at 09:28 AM

you didnt click the links did you?!

should start a new poll, who clicked on stapleballs' links, and who wanted to but didnt....!


ned - 2/3/04 at 09:49 AM

Seeing as this is a sexuality post and there's so far been no porn links:

http://www.flabber.nl/category.php?id=1

ps I'm straight, sorry guys.

Ned.


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 12:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ned

ps I'm straight, sorry guys.

Ned.


woooohooo! best news i've heard in years


blueshift - 2/3/04 at 02:22 PM

I don't think it's a matter of decency suddenly going out of the window or this suddenly becoming a much less car-focused forum because of one post that includes a link to a gay sex photo. Nobody seems to have a problem with the other pornographic and other off-topic material posted in the "anything else" section..

If people know they're going to be offended by images of homosexuality I suggest they overcome their curiosity and not click on links. It wasn't even posted as an inline image..

just my 2p


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 02:29 PM

if the mention (and a link that i removed) of gay sex is lowering the tone of the site, why the hell is it any different to hetro sex, or lesbian sex?

how is it any different to half of the threads here ending at "i like boobies"?

what if there's wimmins on the site? i bet they love that.

we're all adults, if you don't want to see something, don't click the link.


one last little point, what if i found pictures of topless wimmin offencive or sickening. would that lower the tone of the site?

[Edited on 2/3/04 by Staple balls]


Jumpy Guy - 2/3/04 at 02:30 PM

Can't remember too many moans about being off-topic when we were debating John Leslies bird, Jordans tits, etc etc
And I seem to remember no links either, the photos were included.......

If you don't want to look at the photos -DONT CLICK ON THE LINK...

As for me, I'll happily click on links/photos etc of striaght porn anytime!

Certainly beats chewing the fat with you lot of car obsessed wierdos!!


Alan B - 2/3/04 at 02:50 PM

The good thing about this site is lack of censorship and general freedom...we are pretty good at sel-policing and following our own (often unwritten) guidelines...

Someone suggests something reasonable and almost everyone complies...e.g....maybe a couple of years ago I asked a guy if he would change his name from "f**k authority" to something a little more acceptable...everyone agreed that it was better if swearing was reduced and kept out of names and subject titles....

It seems to work.....

So. back to this.....it was suggested that graphic images were best linked with warnings...rather than posted directly.....and again people seem to have followed this......

Despite the subject not being to everyone's taste I feel that our own unwritten guidelines were followed....

Posted in anything else
linked off-site
warnings posted

Verdict....Defendant - not guilty

Judge Alan B....

[Edited on 2/3/04 by Alan B]


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 03:03 PM


pbura - 2/3/04 at 03:06 PM

Well, just as I've never done anything good and admirable when drunk, I've never done anything noble while viewing porn, either

IMO, it arguably doesn't represent the best side of human nature, and we'd do well to keep hard-core links off the site. Remember, some Locosts are built by (or admired by) youngsters who may be viewing.

Just my $.02,

Pete

Edit: Not advocating censorship in any way, btw. The world is already too excessively controlled for my taste!

[Edited on 2/3/04 by pbura]


David Jenkins - 2/3/04 at 03:24 PM

A little while ago I mentioned that putting rude/lewd/nude pictures "in-line" made reading this site impossible in the office. I then asked that any rudeness should be put in a link, with a clear warning.

This is exactly what was done here - in fact, he said "you don't want to look at this!" or similar.

So I didn't.

I have no complaints...

David


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 03:48 PM

nowt wrong with been open and honest about things - afterall, this is the 21st centurary and if you dont like summat, you dont look


marcyboy - 2/3/04 at 04:18 PM

i didn't realise we had quite so many derbyshire folk in.....hehehe,

as for being a fudge packer id rather shag a corpse......again!!


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 04:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by marcyboy
as for being a fudge packer id rather shag a corpse......again!!


good to see open minded, accepting people


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 05:01 PM

very nice to see the adult nature of peoples posts who disagree with the way others lead their lives. umm


sgraber - 2/3/04 at 06:13 PM

I've changed my mind. This is the "Anything Else" section, and car building obviously isn't limited to hetero's who like chicks...

Bang away, oops, I mean post away...

PS- Since we are being so open about ourselves, I must confess - I am a gay lesbian nazi biker chick...


blueshift - 2/3/04 at 06:22 PM

Hurrah for acceptance and mind-changing. Openness and so forth.

Very open.

pass the vaseline.


James - 2/3/04 at 06:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by sgraber
I am a gay lesbian nazi biker chick...


Fu%$ing bikers get every where these days.

Go on, get out, your sort isn't welcome here.
This town is for normal folks only.



James


James - 2/3/04 at 06:27 PM

Ned's lying by the way...

The bastard never will admit the truth!


Alan B - 2/3/04 at 06:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by sgraber...........PS- Since we are being so open about ourselves, I must confess - I am a gay lesbian nazi biker chick...



Oh......NOW you tell me...


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 08:31 PM

wooooooooo

monster raving sex kittens anyone?

lol


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 08:42 PM

i too find it saddening that your son doesn't have open minded teachers at an important time in his development


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 08:47 PM

i also find it sadening that your son might be viewing such material while at school - the topic clearly states sexuality and therefore he should know better under the schools rules and code of conduct not to click on anything sexually related as this may lead to him being reprimanded.

and added, if he was looking at a forum that discusses cars, is he studdying cars for D&T or having a quick 5 mins while the tutor was not watching?

[Edited on 2/3/04 by Graceland]


Viper - 2/3/04 at 09:02 PM

I notice nobody has ticked the gay pole.............hmmm i could have chosen my words better there, but you know what i mean.


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 09:06 PM

well if you want to be technical, i am gay, but every once in a while i get the urge to nail a lass - how odd. lol


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 09:08 PM

another one (ducky) i'm pretty much the same.

has it's upsides though.

try get a bird to help you put an engine in


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 09:09 PM

lmao - dunno what the upsides are - used to let it get me down bigtime and denied it summat rotten and hated it, but ya gotta live with the deal you are dealt i suppose


Noodle - 2/3/04 at 09:13 PM

I read this thread as "Bi-sexual man tentatively seeks other interested parties" Would that be fair?

I do think that orientations of sexuality/politics/religion are not polite conversation, therefore probably not the sort of thing to be discussed on here.

I hope that doesn't sound too negative, but I rather expect others have similar thoughts.

Cheers,

Neil.


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 09:14 PM

why not?

comes properly under "anything else" i think

and is that a threat syd? i'm sure your son will like to see what a prat his dad is. i'll give you a fair chance to retract that comment.


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 09:17 PM

all negative comments appreciated provided they are constructive.

but syd - you are failing to see the point of this thread - there has been no pornographic referances made, no images posted and certainly lewd comments or anything else which would contravein the general politeness of the forum, swearing and offensive language included.

and if your comment about standing face to face is meant to be a threat, then please, there is no need for such childish acts of verbal violence - if i want that, i will goto work and get paid for the pleasure.

one word does spring to mind tho - homophobe.

and no dating arrangements or lonely hearts section on here and there aint any need to be - i'm happily taken with my fella, why would i need to advertise?

[Edited on 2/3/04 by Graceland]


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 09:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Graceland
and no dating arrangements or lonely hearts section on here and there aint any need to be - i'm happily taken with my fella, why would i need to advertise?


same here, been with a guy 7 months or so now, why would i want to find someone on here?

it was more human interest about the view our society has of everyone who builds a kitcar/locost being a middle aged, married, hetrosexual man riding a mid life crisis


Noodle - 2/3/04 at 09:23 PM

quote:
it was more human interest about the view our society has of everyone who builds a kitcar/locost being a middle aged, married, hetrosexual man riding a mid life crisis

Very perceptive

I'm still sticking with my point about polite conversation.

Cheers,

Neil.


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 09:24 PM

noodle, you do have a valid point and it was well made.

unlike some peoples..


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 09:26 PM

i can see where you are coming from with the polite conversation Neil - but it really hasn't degenerated into anything nasty as there has been no violence, abuse, lewd pictures posted, foul language or any other things that would be considered offensive, apart from someone been gay - soceity needs to take a step back and look at whats going on - a few years ago it was frowned upon and considered wrong, today you can walk down the center of manchester or leeds and see plenty of homosexual couples with hardly anyone battering an eyelid


JoelP - 2/3/04 at 09:31 PM

i believe society falls into two main groups here, those who see it as a perversion and those who see it as personal choice. There is then some middle ground for those who say 'whatever in your own home'. I believe this thread merely highlights these groups.

i would agree with those above who, quite rightly, say that there is nothing excessivly offensive in this thread (at least now the links are gone!).

WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT.... as someone once said.


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 09:37 PM

you gonna say hello to me at the next meet Joel? lol


flak monkey - 2/3/04 at 09:39 PM

I agree with Joel.

This thread has brought to light peoples opinions of sexuality, whether they be accepting views or not. People should not be ashamed of their sexuality these days...why should they be? The only thing that puts people off coming out is the fact that they are worried about peoples opinions. I admire anyone who will proudly/openly admit they are gay/bi, we are living in the 21st century and peoples opinions shift with the times.

Its about time people started accepting eachother for who they are!

Chill out a bit... theres nothing here thats harmful to anyone!

Cheers
David


JoelP - 2/3/04 at 09:39 PM

er.. umm.... ah....*cough*....

of course...! i wont even say bums to the wall or anything!!

[Edited on 2/3/04 by JoelP]


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 09:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
I agree with Joel.

This thread has brought to light peoples opinions of sexuality, whether they be accepting views or not. People should not be ashamed of their sexuality these days...why should they be? The only thing that puts people off coming out is the fact that they are worried about peoples opinions. I admire anyone who will proudly/openly admit they are gay/bi, we are living in the 21st century and peoples opinions shift with the times.

Its about time people started accepting eachother for who they are!

Chill out a bit... theres nothing here thats harmful to anyone!

Cheers
David



i love you man, really, i love you.

possibly the best reply ever


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 09:42 PM

lol joel - i aint no screaming queen - you'd not guess to look n talk to me lol

and flakmonkey - nice reply


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 09:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Graceland
lol joel - i aint no screaming queen - you'd not guess to look n talk to me lol


indeed, we're everywhere now, and guess what? we don't look even remotely like the village people!


Graceland - 2/3/04 at 09:45 PM

LMAO @ village people

wonder how many motorbikers there are on here who wear flat leather caps. ummmmmmmmmmmm


loool


Staple balls - 2/3/04 at 09:46 PM

hehehe, 4 of them were straight anyway


ceebmoj - 2/3/04 at 11:50 PM

Just my 2 cents

I am surprised that this has grown to be one of the biggest threads I have seen in hear in a while.

And two I guess that when you are posting on the web about building your car the assumption is then the person on the other end is like you after all they are also interested in building a car, this is just a reminder that that is not the case and not to judge people take them for what they are.

It is also interesting to see the range of responses on the sight.

I think the fact that a teature would consider not following a particular project because there is the possibility of there being gay or bi sexual people involved very short sighted as surly that means that there are no projects that thay can follow.


PS sorry about my spelling and grammar.


Jumpy Guy - 3/3/04 at 09:21 AM

Since a large % of the general poulation have had some gay/bi experience, then a % of the average meeting at Newlands etc has had some....
As has a % of the posters here.....

And as for threats of 'face to face' meetings etc....
We should be moaning about that, pathetic as it is..
You never know who you're posting about. There's at least one ex marine commando that posts here....


James - 3/3/04 at 11:08 AM

Personally I actually think that it's quite a valuable question that leads to a better understanding of those people building their own cars.
I haven't seen a single post here that could be construed as offensive.

My opinion of this hobby *was* that it's done by: white, middle-aged, working-to-middle class, straight, men.

I was therefore interested to see the poles awhile ago about peoples ages/jobs and found that there were as many youngsters (like me- 20's ) as there were middle-aged and that as many people do IT as there are mechanics.

As regards the results of this pole- I'm not surprised no one has yet said they're gay. I have several gay friends and having talked about this hobby with them its just not something they can even concieve of doing- much as unlike them I can't see me making my own curtains!

But then again I may only know a certain 'set' of gay people and maybe there's crowds of gay mechanics out there!


Jumpy,
As you say clearly a certain percentage of the population is gay but we're skewing the results because- as I said above- in my opinion this (in general!!!) isn't the sort of hobby done by gay men. Or atleast the ones I know!

Anyway, this is just a few opinions but I'm not very good a arguing points so I'll stop gibbering now!

James

[Edited on 3/3/04 by James]


ned - 3/3/04 at 11:16 AM

Perhaps intervention or comment from our wise and masterful single handed webmaster/moderator Mr ChrisW who runs this site is required?

just a thought....

Ned.


flak monkey - 3/3/04 at 11:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Syd

This list is viewed by people worldwide, and would be seen as representitive of the UK Locost community. I applaud the freedoms given on this list, but am dismayed by what some of the topics are degrading to. They are neither funny nor witty, but bordering on indecent.

I watch the Australian lists, and the USA, and have yet to encounter anything such has just occurred here. The others seem to keep to topic, and common decency. There's nothing grossly wrong in a pic of a naked female, done tastefully and forewarned.

But some of the comments previous are, quite obviously, those of juvenile minded persons.

Maybe it's time for some guidelines, and more active moderation.

I spoke to the teacher concerned this morning. His comment was to the effect that he would not want his students to come into contact with the Locost community, if the latest image is representitive of the group as a whole, and that a presumably technical list can be allowed to degrade to this. His words were that it 'says a lot about those involved'. I have to say that I agree with him.

The thing is, I know that a large number of this lists' contributors agree with me as well, but just won't stand up and say it.


Firstly what is degrading about being gay/bi? Or infact openly talking about it? Get with the times...take a look around. And i see nothing more indecent in this thread than on such as 'Poll; Mens Health' or any other that openly discuss the nature of Jordans/Janet jacksons boobs or sex in general. Maybe its just because you still see talking about homosexuality as morally wrong. If there is nothing wrong with a picture of a naked female being fore warned...whats wrong with a picture of a naked man? And it was fully fore warned and even said...you dont want to look at this (anyway its gone now)

With regard to the American and Australian forums, they also openly discuss sex etc...why shouldnt they. The fact is that most people who look at these forums are mature enough to take a sensible attitude to these topics. This topic openly states sexuality in the title...so if it offends you dont look at it!

As for speaking to the teacher...what does he have against homosexuality and it being openly discussed. I think it is about time teachers started talking about it in sex ed. Its still a taboo subject, which these days it should not be.
The list is generally technical yes...but this topic is not in the technical section its in the ANYTHING ELSE section! There is all sorts in here, can you say the penguin games are technical? Or linking to pictures of naked women are technical?

If the topic clearly states sex or sexuality and it offends you dont click it...simple.

I actually find your intolerance for open discussion about sex/sexuality more intolerable Syd, get with the times.... and more importantly chill out a bit!

David

[Edited on 3/3/04 by flak monkey]


ned - 3/3/04 at 11:45 AM

this is an interesting forum, if you speak foreign. those you who don't can just look at the pictures. warning: this is a heterosexual orintated site with some adult content.

http://forum.flabber.nl/

perhaps this will bring back up the question as to whether we feel this site needs to have moderators????

Ned.


flak monkey - 3/3/04 at 11:53 AM

There should be no need for moderators. As long people clearly state the subject matter, and post links to material that people may find offensive with a suitable warning.

This is exactly what happens on this site, i havent yet come across a thread that is intentionally misleading or that forces you to see something you dont want to. If you dont like the sound of a thread....dont click it.

Maybe a minimum age (16?) to be a member may be more appropriate?

David


ned - 3/3/04 at 12:00 PM

or some sort of general disclaimer before signing up, stating you agree to x,y,z by registering to use this site?

if people have to have agreed to this, before using hte site, then tough imho. guests could also then be directed via the disclaimer or something. it could even be set by a cookie etc..

Ned.


flak monkey - 3/3/04 at 12:06 PM

Could be good. But IMHO i think the forum does a very good job of self policing. People soon complain if there is something wrong, and if there is enough opposition the thread or message usually dissappears.

The opions in here are the opinions of the people who write the messages. If someone doesnt agree, they can either say so or not as the case may be.

David


James - 3/3/04 at 12:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ned
this is an interesting forum, if you speak foreign.
Ned.


Ned,
Sprecht u Nederlands?

Goede nabend (sp?)

James


Staple balls - 3/3/04 at 12:32 PM

dear god, this is one of the busiest threads i've seen anywhere in quite a while.

and y'know. i'm glad i started it, it's let me certainly see that i'm not surrounded by 40+ white, hetrosexual (and while not homophobic, incapable of accepting) men.

now. syd, i'm very sorry that your kid's teacher sees this one thread, on a messageboard, in the ANYTHING ELSE section as a general view of the locost community

y'know we can't have too many openly bi/gay people interested in such manly and butch hobbies...

ok, now while having marked bisexual on the poll, when it comes down to it I am Gay. the reason i marked myself as Bi, is because it's easier than explaining stuff (i'm pretty much bi curious from the gay side)

ok, that's syd/teacher, sexuality. what else?

ahh yes.

thanks to all the open minded people who can see this thread as an insight into who were are as a group and idividuals, i owe you a pint.


edit: moderation is in my opinion a bad idea.

say... what if syd or hippy was a mod? this thread would be long gone, and we'd lose this whole, interesting insight into the community we have here.

[Edited on 3/3/04 by Staple balls]


Jumpy Guy - 3/3/04 at 12:44 PM

Mine's a large Woo woo, with an umbrella and sparkler!!

(I knew that being a gay-friendly-liberal type would get me a free drink eventually!!)


Graceland - 3/3/04 at 12:56 PM

mines a jack daniels - neat yummy or if they dont have that, lambs rum - mmmmmmmmmm yummy again


James - 3/3/04 at 01:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Staple balls

ok, now while having marked bisexual on the poll, when it comes down to it I am Gay. the reason i marked myself as Bi, is because it's easier than explaining stuff (i'm pretty much bi curious from the gay side)



See- this sort of discussion blows prejudices out of the water! SO it must be good! That's mine about no gay Locosters gone then!

I still reckon you 2/3 are a rarity tho!
It's just not in the whole 'gay culture' thing that I'm aware of!

quote:

thanks to all the open minded people who can see this thread as an insight into who were are as a group and idividuals, i owe you a pint.


Cool! Seeya at the next show- pint of wife-beater for me! :p

quote:

edit: moderation is in my opinion a bad idea.

say... what if syd or hippy was a mod? this thread would be long gone, and we'd lose this whole, interesting insight into the community we have here.



ChrisW has moderated stuff before but only in a moderate ( :p ) way. The way it was done on TOL was ridiculous- every other post was being chopped out!


Roll on posts like this- Locostbuilders provides me with the only entertainment during an otherwise empty 8.5hours per day sitting at this God forsaken desk/office!

James


Staple balls - 3/3/04 at 02:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by James
See- this sort of discussion blows prejudices out of the water! SO it must be good! That's mine about no gay Locosters gone then!

I still reckon you 2/3 are a rarity tho!
It's just not in the whole 'gay culture' thing that I'm aware of!


i think the mostly gay (but not 100%) are in the majority reallly, it's just that due to our society's habit of putting things into subsections, when explaining sexualities it's easier to pick hetro/bi/gay than "well, i'm mostly gay, but i'm attracted to women who i like and care about as friends, but then i'm not sure if i find other women attractive as well"

quote:

Cool! Seeya at the next show- pint of wife-beater for me! :p


you just look out, if i see you face to face, i might just be force to do that

quote:

ChrisW has moderated stuff before but only in a moderate ( :p ) way. The way it was done on TOL was ridiculous- every other post was being chopped out!


Roll on posts like this- Locostbuilders provides me with the only entertainment during an otherwise empty 8.5hours per day sitting at this God forsaken desk/office!

James


indeed, some moderation is good, but overmoderation is bad, as far as i know this thread has stayed within the unspoken rules, and only a small number of people have taken offence


also i'd like to see ChrisW's view on the matter, but more as a member rather than godadmin


greggors84 - 3/3/04 at 03:01 PM

I think this site should stay as it is, i have been a member here for almost a year, although not as long as most i still feel i know how it works. The posts self moderated really, if a member sees something they dont like they will say about it, and if people dont agree there will be a debate, normally it is resolved. As for guests and such seeing stuff they dont like, if everything is put in the appropriate forum and labeled (no open links), there shouldnt be a problem. I was a member of clubGTI and their forum was awful, so many posts got deleted or edited, sounds abit like TOL. During the time ive been using this forum i dont think ive seen something that offended me or i thought was very unappropriate.

Also since ive been here i have never seen any pictures of hetero sex (maybe i havent been looking hard enough!) I think most people are getting annoyed as the picture was of gay sex, (although it was clearly linked and warned about). Im sure they wouldnt have minded if u had linked to picture of some blokes bum or something.

Anyways, i dont think we should be worried about the gay community on this site, more the the ones who chose the "other" column!!!


Staple balls - 3/3/04 at 03:04 PM

it's them bloody welsh, chasing the sheep around the hills


ned - 3/3/04 at 03:04 PM

Back on the moderation front, I can only think of one instance where a post was edited by 'da managment' and i believe it was at the request of the user referred to in the thread, for legal/dvla reasons...

Ned.


James - 3/3/04 at 03:15 PM

Before your time mate!

James


stephen_gusterson - 3/3/04 at 03:19 PM

my take?

If people want to be gay, great.

If they want to be a friend, great, I would have no probs with that.

If they want to share a tent with me at a show, thats a nope!

atb

steve

voted straight.

Now - serious question.

women are fantastic. I cant see any reason no way no how that I would prefer a hairy assed bloke to a curvaceous boobed beautiful woman.

I dont understand gay men.

If its not gonna decend the thread into depths of hell, it would be interesting to know why peeps have this preference......

no need for graphical stuff please....





James - 3/3/04 at 03:24 PM

Steve,

I think it (homsexuality) should be encouraged as much as possible!!!

Leaves more single women for me!

James


Staple balls - 3/3/04 at 03:26 PM

for me it's not a sexual thing, it's all good as far as i'm concerned.

but i prefer guys for the relationship aspect, in that i have more common ground with guys, tend to get on better with them.

hell, current relationship time.

with a lovely guy, a little geeky, quite gay and all round a nice bloke. now, when we're together a lot of the time we're just best friends and you'd assume we're straight, but we also have a level of geeky friendship and an intimate level.

it's hard to explain. but it's all good


stephen_gusterson - 3/3/04 at 03:33 PM

i can converse a whole lot better with men - but it wont affect my swing - but can see your point.

Agreed james - good strategy. However, it might pay to fake being gay. an 18 year old I worked with recently preferred gay guys as friends as they were less threatening....... stealth approach methinks!

atb

steve

(in a very deep voice)


btw stapleballs - your avatar has a whole new meaning now!

[Edited on 3/3/04 by stephen_gusterson]


stephen_gusterson - 3/3/04 at 03:35 PM

just a min

8 'others'

sheep? what?

?????

anyone wanna 'come clean' as to what they ticked that for?




atb

steve


Staple balls - 3/3/04 at 03:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
btw stapleballs - your avatar has a whole new meaning now!




i'm scared and confuddled


James - 3/3/04 at 04:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
However, it might pay to fake being gay. an 18 year old I worked with recently preferred gay guys as friends as they were less threatening....... stealth approach methinks!

[Edited on 3/3/04 by stephen_gusterson]


So true!
A few years ago one of my best mates spent a couple of weeks in a mental institute (having indulged in way to many/much substances at Glastonbury). He came out so camp that everyone we met thought he'd started batting for the other side! He pulled more women during the next few weeks than the rest of us put together!

At the same time my girlfriends best male mate is straight but pretty camp- 99% of his friends are women and he's extremely successful at pulling.

Loads of women at work fancy one of the gay guys here.

I've hard women say several times:
They dress better, dance better, work out and have better clubs than you straight guys!

Ach, it's a funny world!

James


Staple balls - 3/3/04 at 04:07 PM

the stereotypes!

6'4", 19stone, built like a neaderthal, about as much style as a housebrick...


James - 3/3/04 at 04:12 PM

I think it's too much Sex and the City!

Gives 'em ideas!!!

James


Staple balls - 3/3/04 at 04:23 PM

hehe

all crappy american friday evening shows should be banned


ned - 3/3/04 at 04:32 PM

the stealth approach does work! I'm 100% straight (well, apart from when abused as a child, but i don't like to talk about that) and i once somehow got mistaken as gay on a night out and all the ladies seemed to love me, nearly pulled several of em and got away with it as their friends/blokes thought i was harmless. excellent.

Ned.


James - 3/3/04 at 04:44 PM

It's the yellow skin, the glasses and moustache that do it!

James


ned - 3/3/04 at 04:48 PM

James,

Don't get the wrong idea mate, what would rachel say!

Ned.


James - 3/3/04 at 05:03 PM

Yeah, alright Stud! I'm more worried about what Samantha will say when she finds out she shouldn't let you out clubbing on your own!


ned - 3/3/04 at 05:04 PM

she already knows that!

been there, got in trouble before

Ned.


marcyboy - 3/3/04 at 07:24 PM

lets play spot the mumbly!!!
its not hard he's wearing sandals,


JoelP - 3/3/04 at 09:39 PM

what a thread.... must surely be the record for speed of growth.

but yeah, sod moderation straight off. if ya must, a disclaimer on this section but its a bit of ball ache for chris, i wouldnt expect him to be arsed. maybe make this section members only. couldnt really care myself, the Jenkins Law works very well...

but a toast to most of the above anyway, i think we really are a unique community here.

i applaud thinkers who come up with their own moral codes without taking anything as written in stone. listen but never be led. we're called sapiens for a reason...


blueshift - 4/3/04 at 04:04 AM

Just like to tip my hat to those standing up for community moderation (ie no enforced moderation) and freedom of speech wrt. sexuality. I must say I feel a bit more comfortable on the forum knowing I am surrounded by such open-minded and tolerant people, with the occasional exception.

Incedentally, I ticked for bi-curious. Never done anything much with a guy, and am happily with the latest of several women at the moment.. but I think there's always room for curiosity in life.

I'll take up that pint offer too, hope you've got deep pockets


Staple balls - 4/3/04 at 04:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by blueshift
I'll take up that pint offer too, hope you've got deep pockets


amongst other things


like my nostrils

[Edited on 4/3/04 by Staple balls]


blueshift - 4/3/04 at 12:44 PM

I don't want to know what you've been sticking in your nostrils to make them so big.


Peteff - 4/3/04 at 03:34 PM

You don't get excited in sandals then? I think sandals and socks on older men are some kind of giveaway, always looks sus to me. I'm definitely voting for straight, gives me the creeps when I see two blokes tonguing each other even on the telly. I don't mind what anybody does with another consenting animal or person but when you have to put their back legs in your wellies to stop them getting away I think that's rape and it's a no~no. I was worried when the Conservatives were in as I thought the homosexuality bill was going to be a kind of back door tax scam.

yours, Pete.


ned - 4/3/04 at 03:44 PM

back door tax scam - not pun intended pete?

oh, and how do you know if your particular animal is consenting or not?!!

Ned.


marcyboy - 4/3/04 at 04:26 PM

how do you know if your particular animal is consenting or not?!!

does that mean if they dock you that's ok.


James - 4/3/04 at 04:34 PM

http://www.sandalandsoxer.co.uk/

Amusingly, the 5th picture down looks like a seven chassis!

James


Staple balls - 4/3/04 at 06:19 PM

no sandals here... although i have some lovely pink knee high boots


chrisg - 4/3/04 at 06:54 PM

I don't care what you do to the opposite sex, your own sex even your own pet.

I can't stand the filthy perverts who build Robin Hoods!!!!!!

Cheers

Chris


Staple balls - 4/3/04 at 07:03 PM


marcyboy - 4/3/04 at 07:37 PM

no sandals here... although i have some lovely pink knee high boots

"can you lend me the said items or let me know where i can buy some"

size 12 will do


marcyboy - 4/3/04 at 07:38 PM

NOW THATS JUST SICK!!!!!


Peteff - 4/3/04 at 08:36 PM

Men in tights Another giveaway like the back door tax, I like this topic, It's so full of opportunities.

yours, Pete.


Viper - 4/3/04 at 11:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by marcyboy
no sandals here... although i have some lovely pink knee high boots

"can you lend me the said items or let me know where i can buy some"

size 12 will do


Try
http://www.hayway.demon.co.uk/


David Jenkins - 5/3/04 at 08:42 AM

Can we all talk about cars again, please?



DJ


bob - 5/3/04 at 09:28 AM

Yes your right david.

Also most of my friends at our monthly car meets who are gay are a little offended by this topic too

[Edited on 5/3/04 by bob]


ned - 5/3/04 at 10:29 AM

bob, shhhh!


DavidM - 12/3/04 at 12:07 AM

Sorry, couldn't resist it

Regards,

Wendy (at weekends)


Alan B - 12/3/04 at 12:17 AM

Wendy...you bitch....you kept that secret WELL hidden didn't you??????..


DavidM - 12/3/04 at 12:45 AM

Well, you know how it is. Intolerance of ladies in a Male/Homo/Hetro/Bi/Other community.

I was worried that if you found out you'd all start chatting me up.

I've even taken to greasing up when I have my nails done in an attempt to fit in.

But then I realised it makes no difference,


BECAUSE I'M STILL BUILDING A 'KIN CAR!!!!!!


Browser - 12/3/04 at 02:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by James
http://www.sandalandsoxer.co.uk/

Amusingly, the 5th picture down looks like a seven chassis!

James


Ok James, funny link 'n all, but where did you find it and do yo uhave it bookmarked? Are you a closet soxer?


Browser - 12/3/04 at 02:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
just a min

8 'others'

sheep? what?

?????

anyone wanna 'come clean' as to what they ticked that for?




atb

steve


I did Steve, for a laugh like, you know. Didn't expect the thread to get so heavy (didn't expect the Spanish inquisition either!)


RoadkillUK - 12/3/04 at 10:12 AM

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Spanish Inquisition.wav
(Sorry, couldn't resist)

[Edited on 12/3/04 by RoadkillUK]


flak monkey - 12/3/04 at 10:36 AM

MP rule....


David


chewy - 22/11/04 at 01:48 AM

Just thought I'd add one more to the list to totally throw the "kit car builders are all middle aged straight blokes etc. etc."
Just Cos I'm young & never quite got the "straight thing" doesn't mean I can't build a kitcar (yes, I did vote gay).
Personally don't understand you str8 guys, but what the heck don't really care as long as your into car's thats all i care about, just wish eveyone would give me the same curtesy. But then I'm not in your face so you'd never know. And why is it every str8 guy automatically assumes a gay guy's gona find u attractive?
As for curtain making; Er, don't think so (think you need to drop the stereo-type); rather stick to my engineering design - at least I know what i'm doing.

P.S. Nice to know I'm not quite the only gay nutter out there (there's at least one other)


stephen_gusterson - 22/11/04 at 10:19 AM

i think the several months that have passed since the last post show that we really dont give a crap.

i will never understand homosexuals, but it doesnt mean that i dont expect them to be able to build cars, or be 'normal' in every other way.

perhaps the issue for homosexuals at present is their need to promote their 'cause' as loudly as possible - ie peter tatchell - and like you just did

happy building



atb

steve

[Edited on 22/11/04 by stephen_gusterson]


turbolag - 28/4/05 at 04:20 PM

i'm a manly, straight, veritable Burt Reynolds.
I'm also cracking on for middle age so hoping a nice kit car will help me pull the young totty.

Rich.

[Edited on 28/4/05 by turbolag]


pbura - 28/4/05 at 04:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by turbolag
i'm a manly, straight, veritable Burt Reynolds.
I'm also cracking on for middle age so hoping a nice kit car will help me pull the young totty.

Rich.


It's good that you're Rich.

Dunno if the car would do it all by itself

Pete (52)


NS Dev - 18/7/05 at 03:13 PM

Somehow I missed this thread! Very interesting it is too, and supports my theory that the fact that nature is random means that not all macho mechanics are "entirely" straight, and not all hairdressers are gay!! (sorry for the stereotypes there but it illustrates a point!)

I also agree with those saying that this is an "anything else" area, and they can comment as they wish, quite correct too!

Keep up the "anything else" flavour I say!!!


ned - 18/7/05 at 03:22 PM

blast from the past! i think i've already voted


DarrenW - 18/7/05 at 03:25 PM

Nice thread. Very entertaining. Im as straight as you can get but i do like lesbians - does that make me a lesbian as well?????


ned - 18/7/05 at 03:26 PM

may be you're a lesbian trapped i a man's body, just like me


NS Dev - 18/7/05 at 03:32 PM

for my halfpence worth, I subscribe to the views of somebody I know, that everybody really fits into just one of the voting classes, and they just vary from one extreme to the other within that "classification".


DarrenW - 18/7/05 at 03:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ned
may be you're a lesbian trapped i a man's body, just like me



Id like to be trapped in a lesbians body for a few days........................



Anyone got a tissue!


Peteff - 18/7/05 at 03:51 PM

Not the ones round here you wouldn't, they're all 15 stone with tattoos, shaved heads and tits past their waistlines .


DarrenW - 18/7/05 at 03:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
Not the ones round here you wouldn't, they're all 15 stone with tattoos, shaved heads and tits past their waistlines .



They dont all look like that. Ive read the mags - there are some that are gorgeous. The mag was a bit specialist tho...............


James - 18/7/05 at 04:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
for my halfpence worth, I subscribe to the views of somebody I know, that everybody really fits into just one of the voting classes, and they just vary from one extreme to the other within that "classification".


Tend to agree really. Certainly for women atleast, not sure about men so much though. I was under the impression that men tended to be one way or the other and women were the ones on the curiosity scale! But everyone's different I guess which is what makes life so interesting!
Then again, maybe it's a society thing though- curious men would rarely admit it publicly whilst plenty of women would.

Pity the poll didn't include curious_male or curious_female (if you see what I mean) which would give more evidence!

Or maybe I'm just talking complete rubbish which is far more likely!

All the best,
James

[Edited on 18/7/05 by James]


NS Dev - 18/7/05 at 05:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
Not the ones round here you wouldn't, they're all 15 stone with tattoos, shaved heads and tits past their waistlines .


I did Pete, sorry!

and in answer to that...........Urggggghhhh!!!


NS Dev - 18/7/05 at 08:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
what a thread.... must surely be the record for speed of growth.

but yeah, sod moderation straight off. if ya must, a disclaimer on this section but its a bit of ball ache for chris, i wouldnt expect him to be arsed. maybe make this section members only. couldnt really care myself, the Jenkins Law works very well...

but a toast to most of the above anyway, i think we really are a unique community here.

i applaud thinkers who come up with their own moral codes without taking anything as written in stone. listen but never be led. we're called sapiens for a reason...


just read that reply Joel................absolute genius!! Spot on mate!!!