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l0rd - 10/7/09 at 07:32 AM

I nearly converted my car on a BEC earlier today on A363.
I would be the owner of a LaguSaki ZX12 now.
The guy must have had a suicidal wish. He was overtaking 3 cars on a really tight without any visibility S shape corners. Lucky him that I decided to use my brakes for once before I attacked the corners and had slowed down at least 10-15mph when I saw him 5m ahead of me and just managed to dive back to his lane.


chrsgrain - 10/7/09 at 07:35 AM

I used to ride a bike (before I worked in A+E!), don't know what it is about some of them - coming into work this morning on a stretch of road that has had 4 bikers killed this year already, guy wheeling (sp?) out of a roundabout, overtaking 3 cars, and wheeling again as he accelerated beyond 70 at least (40 limit), all during rush hour.....

Hope he's single and carries a donor card.

Chris


Mr Whippy - 10/7/09 at 07:53 AM

Yip some bikers are mad

saying that some idiot shot past me this morning in a black Audi about twice the speed limit before nearly losing it at a roundabout only a few hundred yards further on. It's not the machines but the fools behind the controls.


chrsgrain - 10/7/09 at 07:57 AM

quote:
It's not the machines but the fools behind the controls.


That's very true! Most bikers are sensible, as most drivers are....

Chris


nick205 - 10/7/09 at 08:02 AM

Out in the Indy last night along the A272 (a notorious biker route) and saw several groups on big 1000cc+ bikes. I have to say they were all riding pretty well TBH, no silly overtaking or risk taking - quite enjoyable to rag along with them for a few miles.


David Jenkins - 10/7/09 at 08:04 AM

There's one trick that bikers do round here (and probably elsewhere) that always scares me...

I drive round a blind left-hander to find a biker coming the other way with his tyres on the correct side of the line - but all of his bike and body over on my side. Sometimes they're coming so fast that their head barely misses my car, even when I'm dead-centre in my lane.

I've seen quite a number who fight to pick the bike up, when they realise the position they've put themselves into.

I'm an ex-biker, and I know just how vulnerable they are, which makes it even more scary for me.


fesycresy - 10/7/09 at 08:09 AM

Want to know the best trick on a bike ?

Drive through a crowded street and hit the kill button, then flick it back on.

The bang makes everyone jump, even better if you stick your arm out like your pointing a gun.

Try to watch, Fast Bikes - How to Pull Wheelies and Influence People.

Classic


handyandy - 10/7/09 at 08:20 AM

the best trick on a bike........... to stay alive .

i,m a biker & the antics the biker did that caused this thread just gives bikers the bad "label" of being idiots,

i,m all for having a blast & enjoying the thrill a bike can give but there is a time & a place for riding like that, better still.....keep it for the track.
not being a killjoy, i know we all like to get the adrenaline pumping be it on a bike or in a car, but not whilst putting others safety at risk.

andy


Mr Whippy - 10/7/09 at 08:27 AM

On a good note -

One thing I find very encouraging these days is the increasing number of bikers who have shunned the dumb wearing all black, to now wearing high viz jackets. I know myself, wearing one has prevented lots of car drivers pulling out on me and has made filtering through traffic jams far safer, as they spot me and move out the way.


oldtimer - 10/7/09 at 09:37 AM

Bl00dy biker rather than Bl00dy bikers would probably have been a better heading.


stevebubs - 10/7/09 at 09:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by handyandy
i,m a biker & the antics the biker did that caused this thread just gives bikers the bad "label" of being idiots,



I went along to one of the local meets for advanced motorcycling.

Only went to the one - the antics of the biker above is how they teach you to ride (albeit not overtaking, but going round a bend on the wrong side of the road).

I prefered to stay alive rather than run the advanced certificate russian roulette...


handyandy - 10/7/09 at 09:51 AM

quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
quote:
Originally posted by handyandy
i,m a biker & the antics the biker did that caused this thread just gives bikers the bad "label" of being idiots,



I went along to one of the local meets for advanced motorcycling.

Only went to the one - the antics of the biker above is how they teach you to ride (albeit not overtaking, but going round a bend on the wrong side of the road).

I prefered to stay alive rather than run the advanced certificate russian roulette...


this is where i find it really annoying, bikers that think they can ride well seem to forget that on the open road there are so many hazards that they seem to forget are there, if they cause a RTA its not just them that gets hurt,
without sounding like a know it all but i used to race bikes at a fairly high level within the sport, on the track i was a very aggressive rider (point being ...to win ) but i ride so differently on the road, maybe thats why i,m now a boring OLD biker.....but alive

andy


Vindi_andy - 10/7/09 at 10:07 AM

The saying that use to be used about pilots can be applied to bikers

"there are bold bikers and there are old bikers, but there are no old bold bikers"

I understand why they teach the riding with your body over the other side of the road, the theory is you can see further round the bend and round the vehicle in front so that if the road is clear once it staightens again you can overtake. The problem is that if you are going quickly round a relatively unsighted corner even if you see something sooner do you have time to react.

Surely the better way would be to keep your whole body on your side of the road then look when the road straightens, that way you keep your head on your shoulders

[Edited on 10/7/09 by Vindi_andy]


coozer - 10/7/09 at 11:20 AM

And there's me riding home on me bike, minding me own business when I see a car coming towards me indicating right.. he wants to turn across me into the junction.

OK he stops, he's seen me? yep.. BLOODY tosser driver of the car behind pulls out full chat to overtake him and WHAM! .... that's me waking up in hospital with my biking days over.

Better title might have been:

BlOOdy Drivers!


David Jenkins - 10/7/09 at 11:22 AM

On a righthander like the one I was describing, I was taught to be over near the gutter (a) to keep your head away from oncoming traffic, and (b) so you can see further ahead up the road.

It's OK to be near the white line on a lefthander, because you'll be leaning into your own lane. Again, that position will give you a better view ahead.


motorcycle_mayhem - 10/7/09 at 11:31 AM

My thanks for your consideration and action towards a very vulnerable user of the road, he deserves every assistance and help you can give him in order that he can survive. He was clearly fortunate, you're a careful driver, aware of the presence of other vehicles and able to anticipate the destination (and stupidity) of others. Unfortunately, other tintop drivers are often less aware, when he meets one of those he will unfortunately suffer.

Everybody, PLEASE, Think Bike, See Bike, Get the Hell out of Bike's Way.

Motorcyclists are so vulnerable, it's just that a tintop is always in the way, things sometimes get a bit hot in that helmet.


iscmatt - 10/7/09 at 11:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by motorcycle_mayhem
"Get the Hell out of Bike's Way."

"it's just that a tintop is always in the way"



I don't think these statements help any bikers image?


jack_t - 10/7/09 at 11:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
Want to know the best trick on a bike ?

Drive through a crowded street and hit the kill button, then flick it back on.

The bang makes everyone jump, even better if you stick your arm out like your pointing a gun.


Classic


gunna try that in my car zx10 with custom exhaust should make a decent bang