http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8471187.stm
40k for a piece of wire and a card.
If the consequences of the device failure weren't so tragic I'd so good luck to the blatant con artist.
Jesus H Christ on a stick.
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The training manual for the device says it can even, with the right card, detect elephants, humans and 100 dollar bills.
Elephants really aren't that hard to detect. They kind of stand out.
I almost wish I had the brass neck needed to peddle utter bullshit so convincingly.
Are you cheating? I bet you used an elephant detector didn't you 
Are we going to be on the receiving end of retaliation now? Not like Iraqis to hold a grudge is it?
send him to Iraq to work on a high risk checkpoint for a year or two i reckon
Scroll down till you get to the picture of the arsehole selling them, he looks like Ming the Merciless with those eyebrows!!!
Who would pay £40k for one without some evidence it worked though?
Knowing desperate people really want to believe is the basis of all successful conmen, and has worked since the time people started to walk
upright.
Personally I hope some squadie who's had a mate die at a checkpoint goes and has a chat with him.
[Edited on 22/1/10 by iank]
That is tragic, surely there must be something that pillock can be prosecuted under.... it does sort of explain how all the bombs are getting past the
checkpoints.... unbelievable..
Chris
you can spot a mile off its a complete con. like said, whod pay 40k for something that far fetched without asking to see a demonstration? jeez
wonder if paypal will refund the buyer....... And what kind of neg feedback will he get.......
On a more serious note it could be worse if they find out he is a jewish double agent working for mossad.
Good on him.... if he can proffit from other peoples stupidity... why not..
A fool and his money...etc...
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Originally posted by tegwin
Good on him.... if he can proffit from other peoples stupidity... why not..
A fool and his money...etc...
I believe that dowsing may work when looking for water or similar - as long as it isn't taken too seriously. In normal use the biggest risk is
embarrassment, or a few hours wasted digging or hole-boring.
It should never - EVER - be used in situations where life and limb are at risk (as here) or risking peoples' health (as in so-called medical
diagnosis).
That seller needs to be investigated - and the Home Office and Afghan government need a stiff talking to about evaluating products!
[Edited on 22/1/10 by David Jenkins]
I think this works on the idea that if you're carrying a bomb and go through a check point you're likely to farting like a trooper and
sweating like ..... (can't think of something here)!
The iraq squadies realise this and woohoo the device has found another bomb.
The high price and training make the iraq squaddies believe that it works, this will filter out to everyone else and the myth surround it will be
perpetuated.
If it wasn't so tragic it would be almost a good idea. (i don't believe our squaddies are using this - if they are the squaddies on the way
to give the bloke a good kicking need to call in via Westminster and practice a bit).
6000 units sold worldwide @ $40000 each... = $240million!!!
You can kind of see why, when you've spent that sort of money on snake oil, you're not going to admit it doesn't work... or when
you're the one selling them.
Enough of that... Now then, I've got this new high-tech cloth that only clever people can see. Would you like a new suit, sir?
adrian
Take a read of
http://www.justnet.org/Lists/JUSTNET%20Resources/Attachments/440/moleeval_apr02.pdf
And this was published in 2002, I would suggest the security forces where more than ware of this, (if I can find it with google!!)...
.....
Dan
[Edited on 22/1/10 by Bluemoon]
Apparently he was offered $1m to do a test to prove it worked, he declined.
As people have noted, having a "device" that supposedly work could be important, if the other side believes it.
It's a bit like the current supposedly increased security at airports ect at the moment, this will make it appear more difficult, and make Jo
public feel safer, but if someone want's do actually do something chances are they will not be caught. Also the visible nature of the security
will make any possible terrorists etc nervous and hence easier to spot... Smoke an mirrors can be very useful when used correctly...
Dan
[Edited on 22/1/10 by Bluemoon]
[Edited on 22/1/10 by Bluemoon]
Careful - we'd better all be careful what mean, unfriendly things we say about that device or the people who sell it (whether true or not),
otherwise we'll be successfully sued for libel. Hooray for the british justice system 
Liam
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Originally posted by Liam
Careful - we'd better all be careful what mean, unfriendly things we say about that device or the people who sell it (whether true or not), otherwise we'll be successfully sued for libel. Hooray for the british justice system
Liam
Looks like he's been arrested recently?
According to WikiPedia anyway - hardly cast iron reading but encouraging!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADE-651
'kin 'ell...
You expect this sort of cack from the Far East, but Made in the UK???
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Originally posted by tegwin
Good on him.... if he can proffit from other peoples stupidity... why not..
A fool and his money...etc...
A bit harsh when you consider that the cretin flogging this utter crap is actually costing peoples lives. I
really hope he goes to jail for this.
When in the Navy, on boarding parties, we had a device which could detect drugs, or explosives on a person. You just waved it around the suspect and
watched their eyes.
It was made from a small car battery charger, a length of washer tube and a broken microphone. Total tosh, but when used with confidence and innocent
person would be mildly irritated by its use, but a guilty person would sweat, tremble etc
Sound familiar?
Quote from wiki:
"We have been dealing with doubters for ten years. One of the problems we have is that the machine does look a little primitive. We are working
on a new model that has flashing lights."
Well that'll help then....
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Originally posted by gregs
Quote from wiki:
"We have been dealing with doubters for ten years. One of the problems we have is that the machine does look a little primitive. We are working on a new model that has flashing lights."
Well that'll help then....
that's hilarious!
As a gesture of goodwill, we should give him to the Iraqis, to use his device to clear mine fields.
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Originally posted by adithorp
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Originally posted by Liam
Careful - we'd better all be careful what mean, unfriendly things we say about that device or the people who sell it (whether true or not), otherwise we'll be successfully sued for libel. Hooray for the british justice system
Liam
There's is only one defance against libel; That what you wrote was true. So unless this thing does work, it's not libel. Don't try and make this into some un-justifiable anti-UK rant... thats the Daily Mails job.
thats really bad. I wonder if he has been giving back handers to officials over there, why would they defend him, unless they were getting their
pockets lined?
I hope natural justice is done at some point to this con artist.
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Originally posted by chrsgrain
That is tragic, surely there must be something that pillock can be prosecuted under.... it does sort of explain how all the bombs are getting past the checkpoints.... unbelievable..
Chris
I have the same device with bullsIIit card in it and its detecting bullsIIit seems to work fine lol maybe the guy should make a bin ladden card that would be worth a few bob!
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Originally posted by spiderman01980
bin ladden
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Originally posted by gazza285
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Originally posted by spiderman01980
bin ladden
Who he?
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Originally posted by spiderman01980
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Originally posted by gazza285
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Originally posted by spiderman01980
bin ladden
Who he?
most wanted terrorist leader by the U.S.A!!!
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Originally posted by McLannahan
Looks like he's been arrested recently?
According to WikiPedia anyway - hardly cast iron reading but encouraging!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADE-651
think he should be prosecuted under the Terrorism Act for providing anti terrorism devices that blatantly would never work, to the detriment of allied
forces, and benefit of terrorism.
Never mind sending him to Afghanistan, just ship him out to Terrorist Prison like the rest of the murdering scumbags.
Maybe he should make a "Crap driver" card so the police can leave us all alone to drive 1mph over the limit and smoke a cigarette