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Opinion Poll

smart51 - 9/3/10 at 02:49 PM

There's been a bit of fuss lately about opinion polls. There has been a steady 6 point lead of Con over Lab which hasn't changed despite various "controversies" that newsists have whipped up. To see if we Locostbuilders match the national average, I thought we'd have a little poll of our own.

If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:

speed8 - 9/3/10 at 02:51 PM

Unanimous then (or however it is you spell it)

ali f27 - 9/3/10 at 02:59 PM

sad to have to say but i dont think we have many quality mp on any side to interrested in the press we are in this mess because of poor management for 40 years right across all partys

BenB - 9/3/10 at 03:00 PM

Probably not a true cross-section of society though
The scary thing is that most people are saying it will be a close election.
How sick must the UK voters have been all those years ago of the conservatives that even after such a long time, old fibber-pants Blair and an unwanted war, years of an unelected and hugely unpopular Brown as PM and a major depression (which many blame on him) the tories are still struggling to get into power!

MK9R - 9/3/10 at 03:02 PM

I honestly think it will be a hung parliament, as i think a lot of people will vote for the small independents in a protest vote. So we may see the conservatives side with the raving loonatic party to get that 50.1% of votes

smart51 - 9/3/10 at 03:09 PM

A party doesn't need a coalition of 50% to form a government. If a coalition can't be made then the biggest party has to attempt to run a minority government. In such a case, the ruling party can't introduce the loony laws that they could if they had a big majority. Sounds like a good idea to me. No compulsory ID cards for example.

MK9R - 9/3/10 at 03:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by smart51
A party doesn't need a coalition of 50% to form a government. If a coalition can't be made then the biggest party has to attempt to run a minority government. In such a case, the ruling party can't introduce the loony laws that they could if they had a big majority. Sounds like a good idea to me. No compulsory ID cards for example.

Really, i didn't know that!

hughpinder - 9/3/10 at 03:13 PM

The polls dont tell you a lot:
In the last election only 60% of the registered voters bothered to vote:
of those
37% (=22% of the population entitled to vote) to labour gave 55% of the seats
34% tory only 31 % of seats
and 22% lib dem - 10 % of seats.

If the Tories only get 1 or 2% more votes than labour, labour will still form a government with an overall majority.

Hugh

Jon Ison - 9/3/10 at 03:14 PM

This one makes me giggle to.........

But the one to beware of is this one........

[Edited on 9/3/10 by Jon Ison]

[Edited on 9/3/10 by Jon Ison]

fesycresy - 9/3/10 at 03:16 PM

I need help lads, I need some advice on who to vote for. I'm looking for a party with the following credentials:

1. a strong leader who will take no sh1t off anyone

2. who will throw out all the illegals and deport any immigrant who breaks the law

3. death penalty for peado's

4. sack all the worthless goverment officials who take back-handers and duck houses

5. look after the front line staff, nurses, firemen, teachers, doctors etc

6. give the police more powers to kick the sh1t into pond scum chavs

7. if we are to stay at war at least give them better gear and money or get them home

8. declare war on France

OK I might relent on the last one but worth a shot. Any idea's ?

MakeEverything - 9/3/10 at 03:17 PM

They are all full of shit, and complete shysters, so i dont have the confidence to say that my vote willmake a difference.

Sad really, given all those people that died to allow me to vote, yet the people we vote for let us all down.

smart51 - 9/3/10 at 03:18 PM

Minority governments are very prone to votes of no confidence. If they loose a confidence vote, a new election is called. They don't tend to last too long then, because as soon as the other lot think they can win a new election, they call a no confidence vote for the fun of it.

smart51 - 9/3/10 at 03:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by hughpinder
If the Tories only get 1 or 2% more votes than labour, labour will still form a government with an overall majority.

Not true. Their current 6% lead in the polls, if it were translated into a general election, would only give them 3 more seats than Labour. They would be the largest party but with about 37 seats short of an overall majority. Something more like an 8% or 10% lead is needed to win outright.

tomprescott - 9/3/10 at 03:30 PM

I had to choose "one of the others/don't know" because I think all of the major parties are overly homogeneous, both in policy and lack of integrity. I'm probably going to vote for the green party, they will probably never get into power but at least if they did, they would do what they say they would do. There isn't a single party that I would actually want in power though.

TimC - 9/3/10 at 03:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tomprescott
Its not the same since my Dad John finished.

Disclaimer: the above statement may not be a true reflection of the individual's original post.

[Edited on 9/3/10 by TimC]

alistairolsen - 9/3/10 at 03:44 PM

In the current situation I will be spoiling my vote.

There is not one single party that represents my wants in a political party and that's before you breach the issues of trusting them!

I have not and will not ever vote labour even if my life depended on it. The conservatives are the obvious alternative, but too big a majority would be harmful and Im not a huge fan of cameron.

I guess the best outcome from my point of view would be a conservative majority but not enough to pass anything without cooperation from the others.

[Edited on 9/3/10 by alistairolsen]

smart51 - 9/3/10 at 03:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
In the current situation I will be spoiling my vote.

There is not one single party that represents my wants in a political party and that's before you breach the issues of trusting them!

But is there one party you dislike more than the others? Tactical voting is when you vote for the candidate most likely to beat the one you want to keep out of office. Sometimes that's a better use of a vote than giving it to the candidate you like most, if they're unlikely to win.

Think of a policy you really want to avoid becoming law. Think of who you think will do most damage to the economy. Vote for the party most likely to defeat them in your constituency, even if it is the SNP or UKIP or someone.

[Edited on 9-3-2010 by smart51]

alistairolsen - 9/3/10 at 03:53 PM

that tactical vote would be tory, but a tory landslide is almost as bad!

That said if they get a landslide majority we will get 4 hard years while they try and put the economy back on its feet before the fickle uk public decide life is far too hard and the cycle begins again.....

twybrow - 9/3/10 at 04:04 PM

Spoiling your vote is a bit of cutting off your nose to spite your face. The goverment, and the political parties won't give a rats ass if you spoil it (it is the same as you not getting out of bed), but your vote could make all the difference in deciding an outcome (think US presedential election). We live in a democracy - for all our sakes, don't take that for granted.

If there is genuinely no way you can decide, because you feel none of the parties represent your views, then I suggest you start a party that does!

alistairolsen - 9/3/10 at 04:09 PM

AFAIK spoiled votes are counted in themselves when it comes to the percentage turnout so it's infinitely better than not getting out of bed.

I have absolutely no interest in starting a party of my own, the problems in this country run far deeper than the party in power and their agenda.

Fozzie - 9/3/10 at 04:30 PM

Can I add one to your list fesy?

Who will take us out of the commie state of Europe

Fozzie

tomprescott - 9/3/10 at 04:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by TimC

quote:
Originally posted by tomprescott
Its not the same since my Dad John finished.

Disclaimer: the above statement may not be a true reflection of the individual's original post.

[Edited on 9/3/10 by TimC]

omega 24 v6 - 9/3/10 at 05:51 PM

1. a strong leader who will take no sh1t off anyone

2. who will throw out all the illegals and deport any immigrant who breaks the law

3. death penalty for peado's

4. sack all the worthless goverment officials who take back-handers and duck houses

5. look after the front line staff, nurses, firemen, teachers, doctors etc

6. give the police more powers to kick the sh1t into pond scum chavs

7. if we are to stay at war at least give them better gear and money or get them home

8. declare war on France

Given this statement I would change No 6
"to kick the sh*t out of"

Also this has given me an idea see my new Post re fesycresy's manifesto

zilspeed - 9/3/10 at 06:25 PM

'kin ell lads...

Never thought there would be so many Crazy Dave supporters...

Going by the votes cast so far, I suspect there haven't been many votes cast north of the border.
(And I didn't vote the way that a large number of my countrymen would be likely to, so let's get that one out of the way. Or the way that a lot of you did either...)

smart51 - 9/3/10 at 06:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Never thought there would be so many Crazy Dave supporters...

Me too. I didn't know there were that many in total.

quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Going by the votes cast so far, I suspect there haven't been many votes cast north of the border.

The border being from Lincoln to Worcester. That or everyone else is still at work. Nationally, the current polls are

CON 38%
LAB 32%
LIB 18%
OTHER 12%

Benzine - 9/3/10 at 07:06 PM

"I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs."

"I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking."

"Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!"

I will be drawing a giant dong on my vote paper with a dotted line emanating from the crown

Ninehigh - 9/3/10 at 07:49 PM

When your choices are a giant douche and a turd sandwich...

If you're happy to leave out the war on France (bit close for you southern softies, it'll ruin the buses!) then vote for me!

nick205 - 9/3/10 at 08:42 PM

Struggling with this one - I really can't see that any of the electable parties (Lab/Con then in reality) are any different from each other.

In my eyes they send so much time rubbishing anything the other side says and then realising they're no better they none of them ever actually get any proper governing done - that could be a belssing in disguise right there though.

Any one for a LCB parliament?

Seriously, I think we have the makings of a workable government right here on this forum.

David Jenkins - 9/3/10 at 10:49 PM

Unfortunately the Tories haven't got anyone who can fight as dirty as Labour... Ken Clark is getting too old - but I'd love to have seen him as leader of the opposition! He'd have tied the Prime Mentalist in so many knots that no-one could have untangled him...

Mind you - I don't trust any of them as far as I could throw a house...

morcus - 9/3/10 at 11:03 PM

The whole system is flawed. You should be saying 'which party do I want to vote for' you should be saying, 'which candidate do I want to represent me in parlement.'

I know its easier said than done but thats how it should work. We could vote to ban political parties and have a no party state, theoretically it would be more democratic as it would give more power to MP's and thus their constituents (not that I'm a big Believer in democracy).

Intresting how the poles come out so far.

I said Conservative and I intend to Vote conservative, mostly because they have the best Candidate in our current MP Damien Green.

[Edited on 9/3/10 by morcus]

smart51 - 10/3/10 at 08:18 AM

Thanks all for taking part. I have to say its a surprising result. 63% tory from a sample of 79 votes says you're all a bunch of angry righties - next stop BNP, especially those who want to burn foreigners as witches and declare war on France.

Me, I want a hung parliament. You only get a chance to slap them in the face once every 5 years - make it hurt! I think that Lab and Con would both do some questionable things given a majority. The Lib Dems talk some sense but are unlikely to form a majority government. Lets make them work together whilst they work out that we don't like any of them.

For those who think all politicians are the same just painted different colours, they do believe different things and a Lib Dem government would be different to a Conservative Government and they would both be different to Labour. Go out and vote, if only to unseat your sitting MP. Stir things up a bit.

Ninehigh - 10/3/10 at 04:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Me, I want a hung parliament.

Didn't know we had that choice..

Hang 'em! Twice!