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Keeping the kitchen warm?
David Jenkins - 28/11/10 at 11:32 AM

My house has got conventional hot water central heating, with radiators. This works fine in just about every room of the house, apart from the kitchen, which is always cold.

The kitchen has many problems:


  1. It's long & narrow, with fitted units on most of the wall space.
  2. It's under a flat roof - there is insulation, but probably not enough (and I'm not tearing up the roof/ceiling to add more)
  3. One side is attached to the garage, with an access door.
  4. There's a back door to the outside world.
  5. The only place we could put a radiator was near to the back doors, and the only thing we could fit is one of those 5-foot-long tubular towel rail things.
  6. The floor is ceramic tiles on concrete.

Both doors are reasonably air-tight (the back door is a new double-glazed unit) and we don't get drafts from either of them.

Foolishly I chickened out of under-floor heating when the tiles were laid - wish I'd done that now.

So far I've thought of:

- Kitchen-grade carpet runner to ease cold feet.

Can anyone recommend something to make the place more civilised?

cheers,
David


rayward - 28/11/10 at 11:37 AM

what about electric plinth heaters ?, seen them used a few times in kitchens where space is tight

like this....





Ray


Bluemoon - 28/11/10 at 11:38 AM

electric heater? u can get ones that fit in the unit plinths.. too slow!

[Edited on 28/11/10 by Bluemoon]


indykid - 28/11/10 at 11:51 AM

we have a plinth heater in an 18x12 kitchen with welsh slate floor. it's amazing how quickly it warms up, but if i'm just popping down making a cup of tea, i'll usually just stick the big ring on on the hob


907 - 28/11/10 at 12:05 PM

Nah, nah, nah. Your all looking at this from the wrong angle.


Fit a huge heater in the garage David.

Tell your good lady that every time she opens the door to bring you a cuppa out
she will heat the kitchen.


Ducks for cover.


Paul G


David Jenkins - 28/11/10 at 12:08 PM


Fozzie - 28/11/10 at 12:14 PM

LOL at Paul

When we refitted the out-laws kitchen, we put in one of those plinth heaters, as their kitchen was small with no 'wall' room.

They really do work a treat, and in the summer it has a 'cold' setting (well theirs has anyway ), which can be quite refreshing when it is hot in the summer....

So,....I can highly recommend the plinth heater option...

Fozzie.....


Richard Quinn - 28/11/10 at 12:39 PM

We've got one of the kickspace (plinth) heaters but a plumbed in out. The fan is a little noisey but over than that it's pretty good.


daniel mason - 28/11/10 at 12:46 PM

You can get those column type radiators in many different sizes now. Up to over 2 meters tall and as wide as you want as the sections bolt together! They kick out a serious ammount of btu's but are not exactly 'locost'

[Edited on 28/11/10 by daniel mason]


JoelP - 28/11/10 at 12:52 PM

sounds just like my kitchen david! Tiled floor with no insulation at all, no cavity wall insulation, no radiator, holes in floor and roof around pipes, and a poor quality window.

My solution for now is slippers.

In the long term, i plan on pulling up the floor and insulating it, getting the walls insulated, ducting the extractor to help with damp problems, and maybe building a porch over the back door. A plinth heater is indeed very effective, mainly because the fan is so much better than relying on convection. Id go for a hot (durr, i mean wet ) one myself, then the fan will turn itself on when the heating is on and you dont need to turn it on and off yourself.

[Edited on 28/11/10 by JoelP]


40inches - 28/11/10 at 01:20 PM

Electric plinth heater with a timer


Bluemoon - 28/11/10 at 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by 40inches
Electric plinth heater with a timer


Nice idea, so long as you don't have kids etc leaving stuff in-front of vent. The possibility of blocking up the vents, then switching on whilst your not about and catching fire..

Dan


oadamo - 28/11/10 at 02:22 PM

i have the same prob pmsl i just nick the mat by the back door and put it by the cooker to stand on. but the other half keeps fecking moving it back lol.
adam


coozer - 28/11/10 at 04:40 PM

How high is the ceiling? Can you give away 4"?

First thing I would do with a flat roof is retro fit some Kingspan.

My loft space is lined with 4" Kingspan and we don't need the central heating up there, its superb stuff.

Screw and glue to the underside of the existing ceiling and redecorate it. You will immediately appreciate how much it improves the room.

I know you don't fancy it but take the plunge and install some underfloor heating, only needs to go on the exposed area you walk around on.

Steve


40inches - 28/11/10 at 09:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Bluemoon
quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
Electric plinth heater with a timer


Nice idea, so long as you don't have kids etc leaving stuff in-front of vent. The possibility of blocking up the vents, then switching on whilst your not about and catching fire..

Dan


They should have a thermal overload switch, if they get too hot they shut down


Ninehigh - 28/11/10 at 10:08 PM

Our kitchen appears to be a similar layout (no garage and bathroom above though), but we just cook with the oven and it kicks out enough heat to keep everything warm for a while.