http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9063200/NHS-spends-23m-a-year-on-translators.html
SOFT TOUCH UK AGAIN!!!
Because a handful of lawsuits brought about through a 'breakdown in communication' would probably cost the NHS more???
It can't be 
And I take a very christian view that any genuine visitors to the country should be cared for appropriately and for free whilst in our land and as
such may have difficulty in such an emergency European or otherwise. But I dont believe emergency cases would rack up that bill, 1 % maybe
Perhaps we should be investing in teaching languages at school.
Us English are the worst at speaking 2nd or 3rd languages and rely on other nationalities speaking English when we are abroad.
Should just let all the deaf people die then... oh didn't you realise that budget also pays for all the sign language interpreters that are
needed and there being significantly fewer of them and having to be present in the surgery/hospital means I bet the lions share goes to them.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/07/lack-interpreters-deaf-people-risk
[Edited on 29/7/13 by iank]
As there are 353 current NHS hospitals in England, £64000 per day spread over all nhs hospitals isn't that much being spend per hospital as you might think. Let's see what we pay to lazy arse, cant be bothered to get a job, scroungers each day, whilst we go out to a hard days work to support them????
Indeed that's £181 per day per hospital - which would be about 2 hours worth of a decent interpreters time. I'm surprised that's not the daily wail that's being quoted.
Heard a similar thing on the radio today, who knows if it's true but apparently the last government decided to rationalise fire
emergency response centres and created about a dozen regional offices to co ordinate things, after a disaster with implementing IT
systems which cost billions the idea was abandoned leaving around 4 brand new buildings empty.........cost to us the taxpayer to
maintain said buildings...... 4 million a month 
I'm thinking someone is getting very rich from those empty properties, it would be cheaper to fell the things and cut the taxpayers losses.
No wonder the country is in such a state.
Wadders, I believe that one of those over in the North East is to be taken over and used by......... the local fire service. Well I never!!!!!
as someone who works for the NHS i can tell you that a lot of people treated have no right for that treatment,they have come here just for the free
house/money/healthcare.
like the one with 3 wives and 15 kids who live in 3 council flats and not one of them work,the old man is on dyalasis that costs a fortune to
adminsiter,he dosnt speak a word of english as everything is handed to him/them on a plate,or the one who arrived at the hospital direct from the
airport for her dyalasis to start...how did that happen ?.
if i went to another country and need healthcare or to speak to the local authoroty i would have to speak the lingo or get my own translater so why
provide them free here ?.
Is this to translate what all the foreign, non-English speaking medical staff are saying to their English speaking patients or the other way round?
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Originally posted by theconrodkid
as someone who works for the NHS i can tell you that a lot of people treated have no right for that treatment,they have come here just for the free house/money/healthcare.
like the one with 3 wives and 15 kids who live in 3 council flats and not one of them work,the old man is on dyalasis that costs a fortune to adminsiter,he dosnt speak a word of english as everything is handed to him/them on a plate,or the one who arrived at the hospital direct from the airport for her dyalasis to start...how did that happen ?.
if i went to another country and need healthcare or to speak to the local authoroty i would have to speak the lingo or get my own translater so why provide them free here ?.
.....£181 per day per hospital - which would be about 2 hours worth of a decent interpreters time
£90 per hour for an interpreter??? And you recon thats a reasonable rate??? Your avin a laugh mate!
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Originally posted by myke pocock
.....£181 per day per hospital - which would be about 2 hours worth of a decent interpreters time
£90 per hour for an interpreter??? And you recon thats a reasonable rate??? Your avin a laugh mate!
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Originally posted by myke pocock
.....£181 per day per hospital - which would be about 2 hours worth of a decent interpreters time
£90 per hour for an interpreter??? And you recon that's a reasonable rate??? You're avin a laugh mate!
My wife works with the mentally ill. The area she works in is predominantly inhabited by immigrants. She has many genuinely ill patients, but also a significant proportion of obvious spongers. Many of these spongers speak good English, but suddenly struggle whenever they are challenged about their own actions, ability to work, etc. Suddenly they require an interpreter - at £200 an hour, with a minimum booking period of 3 hours! This tends to happen particularly when their DLA is due for re-evaluation - and once it is confirmed, they suddenly manage to speak English again or not bother making any of their appointments until the next time their benefits are at risk.
quote:Originally posted by theconrodkid
as someone who works for the NHS i can tell you that a lot of people treated have no right for that treatment,they have come here just for the
free house/money/healthcare.
like the one with 3 wives and 15 kids who live in 3 council flats and not one of them work,the old man is on dyalasis that costs a fortune to
adminsiter,he dosnt speak a word of english as everything is handed to him/them on a plate,or the one who arrived at the hospital direct from the
airport for her dyalasis to start...how did that happen ?.
if i went to another country and need healthcare or to speak to the local authoroty i would have to speak the lingo or get my own translater so
why provide them free here ?.
Anyone who works for the NHS would know there's specialist teams whos job it is to hunt down such people and ensure the treatment is paid for. I
know quite a few doctors working in NHS hospitals who say it's a reasonably rare event?
Here in London,it happens all the time,how do you track down someone who lives in a mud hut in the middle of nowhere or gives a false address ?.
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Originally posted by theconrodkidHere in London,it happens all the time,how do you track down someone who lives in a mud hut in the middle of nowhere or gives a false address ?.
as an aside... when you initially see the 17% increase this is quite shocking, yet it actually appears to be less than the rate of inflation over the
same period. data
nice bit of journalism there.
£90 an hour for a translator? There's an app for that
How much it be for an online video link to the relevant embassy or language school?!
In defence of this rather than justification.... I've been to many countries n the hospitals will have interpreters for me n the English etc...
VOTE UKIP
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Originally posted by coozer
VOTE UKIP
I don't think £90 is a bad hourly rate for a potentially highly skilled multilingual person who may well have to have medical background to
properly translate, when you factor in call out fees and the usual hike in price for contract work (due to them having unpredictable income).
I've seen folk pay £85 per hour at normal car main dealers before now, and that's for a chap with a spanner.
Oh realy, get real. You cannot in any way equate a translators wage and the costs involved with that of a main dealer and the costs of running such an establishment. As we are recounting stories heres mine. A colleagues wife worked in an NHS call centre in the North East. It wasnt unusual to receive a call from someone who was wanting to claim benefit and couldnt speak Eenglish and needed a translator. The initial call to said translator was charged as £25 then subsequent minutes were paid at £10 per minute. Also it wasnt unusual that a call ended for some spurious reason meaning a further call to the translator who was then paid a further £25. Real story or fairy tale? When disabled people needing an additional bedroom for entirely legitimate reasons (storage of equipment, sleeping for a disabled partner as on the news tonight) are being denied legitimate benefit surely spurious use of the translator system should be clamped down on. AND for those who may get all defensive I will readily accept the LEGITIMATE translator system in the NHS>
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Originally posted by JoelP
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Originally posted by coozer
VOTE UKIP
You must be joking!
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Originally posted by myke pocock
As we are recounting stories heres mine. A colleagues wife worked in an NHS call centre in the North East. It wasnt unusual to receive a call from someone who was wanting to claim benefit and couldnt speak Eenglish and needed a translator....
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Oh realy, get real. You cannot in any way equate a translators wage and the costs involved with that of a main dealer and the costs of running such an establishment
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Originally posted by Simon
It's all very well saying the British should learn a foreign language, but which one - usual three French, German or Spanish? Italian perhaps. Emerging markets might be a better idea - but which Indian or Chinese language. Russian, Japanese or Korean perhaps. Maybe do Gallic just in case the Scots go independent or Welsh - always liked the accent.
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Originally posted by Ninehigh
Polish is the second most popular language in the country apparently. It caused a bit of a ruckus with the dail mail lot but the second language has got to be a foreign one!
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Originally posted by Ninehigh
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Originally posted by Simon
It's all very well saying the British should learn a foreign language, but which one - usual three French, German or Spanish? Italian perhaps. Emerging markets might be a better idea - but which Indian or Chinese language. Russian, Japanese or Korean perhaps. Maybe do Gallic just in case the Scots go independent or Welsh - always liked the accent.
Polish is the second most popular language in the country apparently. It caused a bit of a ruckus with the daily mail lot but the second language has got to be a foreign one!
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Originally posted by scudderfish
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Originally posted by Ninehigh
Polish is the second most popular language in the country apparently. It caused a bit of a ruckus with the dail mail lot but the second language has got to be a foreign one!
Unless the worst fears of the DM happen
Sorry Sootz, DSS. Its an age thing SEE!!!
Ah! 
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Originally posted by britishtrident
In my area what I really really object to is the foisting of bilingual English-Gaelic signs on every rail station in every part of Scotland, the area I live in was never a Gaelic speaking area they actually have to invent Gaelic versions of the place names but we have to have them because of a tiny but vocal pressure group.
[Edited on 31/7/13 by britishtrident]
Just for a laugh, when I was in north Wales recently, I tuned into a Welsh speaking
radio station - no idea what they were saying, but quite a high percentage of the words were English. Quite funny really. I used to work with a South African couple who would have stand-up domestics in the middle of the office. They'd rant at each other in
Afrikaans, but swear at each other in English. Quite amusing