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Fibre Broadband Modem location?
six mad - 15/9/13 at 02:13 PM

Afternoon all,

I have upgraded to fibre, question is, my current router is not next to the master BT socket and my
network cables are also terminated in this location, my current router is on a slave socket.

After reading the info on the new router the new modem needs to be plugged into the master BT socket
then the router plugs into the new modem.

Can I joint the cables at the master telephone socket and fit the master socket in the place of the current slave?

Or better still will the BT engineer do it? Anyone had experience of this?

Thanks in advance

ash_hammond - 15/9/13 at 02:32 PM

I have Fibre BB and have the same issue as you.

The issue at the moment is its not really a tidy solution.

You will need to boxes. One is an Open Reach modem as as far as i understand it, it must be plugged into the master socket as they change the faceplate at installation time. The modem is then connected the wifi router (in my case bt home hub) via a standard network patch lead.

You can move the modem by buying a longer rj11 lead but that's about it.

If you do find a solution to this please set me know

Thanks

Ash

YQUSTA - 15/9/13 at 02:33 PM

You can ask BT to do it but it will cost you.

They would also have said to put the original one on the master too.

Can you run a CAT 5 to your current location as that is all that is going between the modem and router?

Or just move the master socket yourself it would be a lot cheaper than asking BT to do it, you then would have to hang any other sockets off this socket if you do move it though.

six mad - 15/9/13 at 02:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by YQUSTA
You can ask BT to do it but it will cost you.

They would also have said to put the original one on the master too.

Can you run a CAT 5 to your current location as that is all that is going between the modem and router?

Or just move the master socket yourself it would be a lot cheaper than asking BT to do it, you then would have to hang any other sockets off this socket if you do move it though.



Running a cat 5 is not really viable, i would need carpets up etc.

I will move the master myself Landline phone will have to move too !

Thanks

splitrivet - 15/9/13 at 03:19 PM

Dont ask BT they will charge you a fortune, its simple enough to move the master socket if you need any help just u2u me. Yes just joint it and do a straight swap.
Cheers,
Bob

[Edited on 15/9/13 by splitrivet]

six mad - 15/9/13 at 05:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by splitrivet
Dont ask BT they will charge you a fortune, its simple enough to move the master socket if you need any help just u2u me. Yes just joint it and do a straight swap.
Cheers,
Bob

[Edited on 15/9/13 by splitrivet]


Thankyou

Thats great I was unsure if you are allowed to move the BT master socket.

I,m fine with the wiring though i,m a sparky with telephone and panel wiring experience

One thing i dont know is, if the fibre broadband system still uses one pair??

I want to use a pair to run back to a slave socket to provide the socket for the land line.

britishtrident - 15/9/13 at 06:14 PM

Leave the master socket where it is use networking over mains.
At the other end of the networking over mains you can do anything you want, wired, wireless or both

splitrivet - 15/9/13 at 08:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by six mad
quote:
Originally posted by splitrivet
Dont ask BT they will charge you a fortune, its simple enough to move the master socket if you need any help just u2u me. Yes just joint it and do a straight swap.
Cheers,
Bob

[Edited on 15/9/13 by splitrivet]


Thankyou

Thats great I was unsure if you are allowed to move the BT master socket.

I,m fine with the wiring though i,m a sparky with telephone and panel wiring experience

One thing i dont know is, if the fibre broadband system still uses one pair??

I want to use a pair to run back to a slave socket to provide the socket for the land line.


Yes the fibre from the cab arrives on the a/b pair. As long as youve got a 2 pair to your chosen location not a problem one pair to feed the master and another pair to bring it back to where it was, if you get stuck u2u me, if you need a new feed use external to rewire its normally easier/tidier to run around perimeter than to run internally.
Cheers,
Bob

jeffw - 15/9/13 at 09:16 PM

BT will move the master as part of the FTTC install. Or you can ask them to run a Cat 5 (upto 30m) all FOC as part of the install.

McLannahan - 15/9/13 at 09:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
BT will move the master as part of the FTTC install. Or you can ask them to run a Cat 5 (upto 30m) all FOC as part of the install.


Openreach have just done this for me as part of my Talk Talk install. Chap moved my master socket and told me they're allowed to move it within 10metres for no additional charge. He moved mine about two metres to a better location.

As above, you'll need an extra socket for the new DSL fibre router they supply.

splitrivet - 15/9/13 at 10:05 PM

Depends on the the installer, if its a contractor, Kelly or a guy with a cob on they will only do the bare minimum. just down to luck i guess. Contractors are only paid x amount per drop.
Cheers.
Bob

dhutch - 16/9/13 at 05:48 AM

Its quite possible to move the master socket yourself, but you will be moving it live, at your own risk. Its also not your property and your not allowed to move it. More over, if you do move it by joining/extending the wires etc you introduce a possible issue in terms of the speed of the connection, but also it becomes quiet clear you have done so, so if you have any issues, all of a sudden its unclear if the issue is where there network, or your unauthorised relocation. The only real option then is to pay out for them to re do it and or authorise the move.

So while if you can get moved as part of the install foc, happy days, I would other either leave it be or suck up the cost.

If you have an issue of the modem/router being in one room, and all your network cables terminating in the other, buy a network switch to bring the cables together into one, and then run it where/however you where going to run the cable to relocate the master socket in the first place. Simples.


Daniel

six mad - 18/9/13 at 03:05 PM

Feedback,

Bt openreach gent was not concerned that the socket had moved

He was only bothered that the wiring was correct as he had come across some serious DIY
bodges

All ok now and I have a nice tidy install and 36meg at the moment.