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subk2002 - 4/2/05 at 06:45 PM

Well i was made redundant on wednesday

Im wondering what do i do now?
Im only 24 so i will get 4 weeks pay as redundancy. I was at the company 8 1/2 years i will also get 8 weeks notice but if i go out and get a job tomorrow i wont get my 8wks .So what do i do ,go on the doll and not work for 8wks so i get my money or somthing els?

Any help would be great

Cheers Drew


aweekes1 - 4/2/05 at 06:49 PM

Don't waste a second, get out there and geta new job. I was made redundant last September and I'm still out of work and about to lose my home! Don't wait, it will look unusual to a prospective employer, just get stuck in...


zilspeed - 4/2/05 at 06:51 PM

Drew

That is seriously b***ocks news mate

Any chance of picking up a wee bit of cash in hand until something decent comes along ?
Yes - I know it's wrong - but if you're going to be looking for a decent job anyway...

P.S. What do you do for a living - I can keep my ear to the ground.

[Edited on 4/2/05 by zilspeed]


subk2002 - 4/2/05 at 06:55 PM

I forgot to say that im a Joiner to trade

[Edited on 4/2/05 by subk2002]


stevebubs - 4/2/05 at 07:02 PM

http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/redundancy/payments-pl808a.htm#What%20payments?

[Edited on 4/2/05 by stevebubs]


marcyboy - 4/2/05 at 07:06 PM

at least you've got a trade...
good luck in what ever you decide to do...
i was made redundant last july and even though i new it was gonna be likely 6 months before...i still was'nt prepared for it, i should of embezzled some funds ...lol.


David Jenkins - 4/2/05 at 07:11 PM

I can only offer the advice I was given when I took voluntary redundancy 10 years or so ago...
...looking for another job is itself a full-time job - you should try to spend at least a half of every day looking, writing letters, phoning, etc. You only need one good answer!
This worked for me and my son when he left university.

Good luck,
David


gazza285 - 4/2/05 at 07:27 PM

Shouldn't be a problem getting work, as long as you are willing to travel. Construction contractors are looking for all trades as there is a big skills shortage, agency should be able to sort you out short term, then see about jumping ship and either joining a firm full time or sign up to the CIS4 self employment ticket. I did the latter 12 months ago and it was the best thing I have ever done.


theconrodkid - 4/2/05 at 07:29 PM

try working for yourself,there are allways people wanting doors,windows etc or get along to building sites and have a word.
self employed is good!ps good luck


JoelP - 4/2/05 at 07:36 PM

hey, im sort of a joiner! more kitchen fitting. dead easy, only started 6 months ago, now i run fits and together with a few mates we do jobs for norwood interiors, with a few more contracts coming up.

make sure you are able to branch out. Ring round all local DIY shops (B&Q, and more specialist places) asking if they need fitters, for any sort of installation. My mate sorted all this out for me just by blagging that he was already set up with a few teams of lads on it. not hard to get good contracts.

or consider getting some qualifications - electrics is a good one nowadays, but dont waste time. you can get part P certified in a week or less.


stephen_gusterson - 4/2/05 at 08:07 PM

I was made redundant on 25th November. Had to spend the xmas period without a job, not knowing if i was gonna land a really good offer, that was bubbling under, after xmas.

Luckily I did, and as many people have told me, losing your job is often a great opportunity.

Nearly everyone I spoke to had been made redundant at some point, so its not personal.

Hang on for your redundancy, unless you get a really good offer elsewhere.


It doesnt get taxed or NI on it unless it passes 30,000.

so, you should get a week for every complete year from the govt. (but thats capped at 270 quid a week).

But you should also get a week notice for every year you have been with your employer, from them, at the full normal pay rate.

and none of it is taxed.


atb


steve

[Edited on 4/2/05 by stephen_gusterson]


Peteff - 4/2/05 at 08:18 PM

You should get your 8 weeks pay in lieu of notice even if you get another job. If you are still working there you should also get paid time off for interviews at other places if you find anywhere. Do you get accrued holiday pay as well? Get to the jobcentre and ask them what your entitlements are.


stephen_gusterson - 4/2/05 at 08:40 PM

here is something on redundancy....


mark_UK - 4/2/05 at 08:48 PM

Shitty news mate,happened to me too last april,out of the blue after 16 years at the same firm.Was on a serious downer,but just before I was due to leave I got the chance of another job took a deal from the company so I got most of my money and left.Best thing that could have ever happened for me I now work job and done so most weeks I`m finished thursday sometimes weds night good luck!


phelpsa - 4/2/05 at 09:03 PM

My dad was made redundant by Vodafone 2 years ago, and had a job straight away at Siemens mobile.

My mum was made redundant by Vodafone in july, decided to wait until the summer holidays was over, and now she can't find one.

So it seems that getting ajob quickly is the way to go.


stephen_gusterson - 4/2/05 at 09:53 PM

bit did she actually turn anything down / lose an opportunity in that time....?

The trick is the timing - and if its a good job ya just gotta go for it

atb

steve


David Jenkins - 4/2/05 at 10:02 PM

I was also told to "hussle, hussle, hussle" and "be flexible". Pretty much what everyone has said previously.

When I took redundancy from BT they arranged "job finding classes". Went to one of these, didn't expect much, and ended up in a room with around 15 other people in the same boat. 14 out of the 16 were whingeing about how hard life was, but me and the bloke opposite looked at each other and said "Nah!". The woman running the course soon picked up on our attitude and the rest of the course was aimed directly at us! Ended up with a great big folder full of really useful tips on CV writing, interview techniques, how to apply for jobs, and so on. Premium stuff.
Attitude is also a big thing if you decide to go to the job centre and sign on. When I did, I went with a big folder full of details of job applications, responses, what I was going to do next, and so on. The person behind the counter really perked up and made a point of advising me on what to claim, etc. simply because I made it clear that I wanted another job and was working hard to get one.

DJ


OX - 4/2/05 at 11:35 PM

sorry to hear about that dude its pants heay,i was made redundant on friday after being there 14 years but started my new job on wednesday training to be a plasterer,i was a motor bike mechanic


subk2002 - 5/2/05 at 12:10 AM

Thanks for the advice guys i will keep you posted on what happens


white130d - 5/2/05 at 12:36 AM

Dude sorry to hear of your redundancy, but with a trade like yours you may not have any trouble. And as someone said, you could always become "self employed.

I am self employed and everybody tells me my boss is a real @sshole

David


pbura - 5/2/05 at 04:07 AM

Though it's good to do the usual job-hunting stuff, such as sending out CVs and answering ads, I've found the most fruitful route to be to tell everyone you know that you are looking, and to tell them exactly what kind of work you are willing to do. Casual acquaintances can be the best resources, oddly enough.

And whenever you get turned down somewhere, be sure to ask if they know of anyone else who may be interested.

My wife was a dental hygienist and she had a very unusual job-hunting technique that worked great for her, when she finished school and again when we moved to a new city. She sat down with the yellow pages and called every dentist in town. Both times she had a job within a couple of days. When I started my business, I was so desperate one day that I tried calling local businesses, and got myself a rather large client right away.

Re: self-employment, I reckon it has cost me well over a million dollars to have been self-employed for the past 15 years, but at least job security is not an issue.

[Edited on 5/2/05 by pbura]


Jasper - 5/2/05 at 02:17 PM

I was made redundant a few years ago as a video production manager (for the second time), I got four weeks pay. 6 weeks later the rest were paid off on the spot with nothing - so be grateful

I took the plunge and went into my mum's business and now sell teddy bears for a living - can get more different than that.

Can't imagine with a trade like that you would be out of a job for long - at least not down this neck of the woods. Have you thought of getting into doing roof conversions? Very popular down here in bungalow land.


stephen_gusterson - 5/2/05 at 09:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by OX
sorry to hear about that dude its pants heay,i was made redundant on friday after being there 14 years but started my new job on wednesday training to be a plasterer,i was a motor bike mechanic




the place i worked at - it was pretty obvious the whole place was going downhill. they made all the production people redundant. one guy could see it coming, and spent a week on a redidential course learning to plaster. he charges about 400 quid a day for plastering work which is about 4x what he got assembling stuff where I worked.

good choice i think ox, and a skill that cant be exported or made in china

atb

steve


gazza285 - 5/2/05 at 10:09 PM

Bad news is that it is a skill that can be imported. Site I am currently on in Lancaster has a large Polish contingent. While the plasterers are from the UK the Poles are fitting all the kitchens and fitting out the bedrooms (we are building student accommodation). While I have no problem with the fact that they are foreign it is the fact that they are only paid a fiver an hour. How many skilled UK workers would accept that sort of rate? Not this one, that's for sure. All part of the wonderful Europe we now live in, they can work here freely and we can work there freely, but their cost of living is a lot lower than ours so its us that's being screwed. The Germans are experiencing the same effect, only worse as they are much nearer the old Communist East countries. How long before all the construction and engineering industries will be employing cheap labour from abroad?


stephen_gusterson - 5/2/05 at 10:23 PM

we started it - did you never watch auf weidersein pet?

the guy i know does smaller jobs for local projects like house extensions....... i would imagine the 'imports' work for barratt and the like....

atb

steve


gazza285 - 6/2/05 at 12:35 AM

Jarvis actually, and what a bunch of lying, cheating set of compulsive masturbaters they are. Auf Weidersein Pet? Very true to life, but that was 20 years ago. We did start it, but it was the other way round, we brough the Kraut over here to rebuild after WW2, hence the term "Jerry built", unfortunately a term for shite work now.


Peteff - 6/2/05 at 12:56 AM

Most places don't even bother. I can do it but have never had a job doing it, it's bloody hard work and I'm too old. I was doing some for the brother in law a while back and the flooring man there said the last job they were on, finishing plasterers were getting £20+ per hour.


gazza285 - 6/2/05 at 01:45 AM

I was working for a subcontractor for too many years at around £7 to £10 an hour, but my boss was charging the main contractor between £15 to £25 an hour for my services. I thought about this for a bit, then me and a few like minded mates went in direct and took all the work away from our boss, why should he get rich off our work? I (and the rest of my mates) are now earning loads and the ex-middle man gets none of the money I earn. Just takes a bit of balls to do, and a bit of money up front as most contracting firm work on 90 days payment.


Volvorsport - 6/2/05 at 02:15 AM

how much do you want an hour ?

bearing in mind i cant pay much , ive got a few roofing contracts (dead easy for you joiners) , the other times ill be teaching you GRP laminating etc , and how to REALLY build kit cars .


Lawnmower - 6/2/05 at 09:54 AM

quote:
Originally posted by gazza285
I was working for a subcontractor for too many years at around £7 to £10 an hour, but my boss was charging the main contractor between £15 to £25 an hour for my services.


Sounds about right, except my boss charges £40ph for my work/£400 a day, and doesn't pay me overtime (although will still charge the clients for overtime done)

Also reimburses my company mileage at 7.5p per mile (was 8p but the spen around half our recalulating it, bastards).
Thing is they charge the clients at 55p per mile!

Wish could go self employed but horrendous start up costs!


subk2002 - 6/2/05 at 05:26 PM

Another thing is im waiting on an operation on my knee due about april.So i will be out the game for about 3 months.


Volvorsport - 7/2/05 at 12:53 AM

haha , sorry wasnt trying to be sarcastic , it was a genuine offer at the time , ive now sobered up , but ill be looking for a hobo to shout at , later in the year .

Of course things might change !!


mangogrooveworkshop - 7/2/05 at 01:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by subk2002
Another thing is im waiting on an operation on my knee due about april.So i will be out the game for about 3 months.


My buddy down the road had a knee op and he built a kit house after when he was off on the sick. He had a fancy splint and some young laddies to do the lifting. Was a sight to see!
The council always have spaces and it cusshy work.
You will get something. Its not like you will starve....try moving from africa nice job house cars ect to catching a bus and living with your inlaws working in Macds flipping burgers cause you cant get work..... started subcontracting and life got better. Work flew in and we could not take holidays. It led to the job now which is great.