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Max Power Mosely is really talking out of his arse this time
BenB - 31/10/07 at 10:01 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7070564.stm

Basically, Max reckons Lewis Hamilton is too good, and will have a negative effect on Formula 1.

Whereas the Michael Shumacher era was a brilliant display of close racing

And who has won the constructors championship 8 times in the last 10 years....

What a load of testicles....


02GF74 - 31/10/07 at 10:09 AM

Leave hime alone, the poor bloke is senile.


BenB - 31/10/07 at 10:16 AM

Yes. Maybe that's it. He's got senile dementia and has forgotten the fact that during the time that Schuey was pretty much totally dominant in a Ferrari and won the Drivers championship five times in a row he didn't say a single thing......

Why doesn't he just wear a T-shirt saying "I hate McLaren" on the front and "my daddy was right" on the back, and maybe get F1 sponsored by the BNP

what a gimp


Paul TigerB6 - 31/10/07 at 10:22 AM

"It will start to be negative because we'll get the Schumacher effect where people start writing to me saying can't you do something to slow him down."

The guy is a complete moron!! I've never heard anything so utterly stupid. He should be pleased that there's another driver capable of driving at the pace of Alonso, Raikonnen et al. How on earth can he still be in charge at the FIA??


Peteff - 31/10/07 at 10:23 AM

When you read about 20 white men chasing a black man it would have been about the Ku Klux Klan, now it's Formula 1. Their closed shop has been infiltrated and they don't seem to like it and there is no way to put another slant on it. He should be kicked off the board for his prejudice.


Fatgadget - 31/10/07 at 10:41 AM

Ummm I'd have thought Max would have been grateful Lewis happened on the scene and put the brakes on a certain Spaniard dominating the sport!


Hammerhead - 31/10/07 at 11:08 AM

Mad Max! (but without the cool car)


Paul TigerB6 - 31/10/07 at 11:17 AM

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/03/22/debate-your-verdict-on-max-mosley/

some interesting comments in there!!


designer - 31/10/07 at 11:31 AM

Lewis certainly is a talent.

BUT, if a rookie can step in and do so well, there is a basic fault with the competition! Basicly there is none!!

The whole year shows how F1 is now in a 'comfort zone'.

The engines are detuned to last two races. so rarely explode during a race.

The tyres can handle all the power, make cars run like like Scalextric.

Qualifying denotes who will win, unless something extraordinary happens.

The theory of F1 is that the machine should fall to pieces as it passes the finish line!!


designer - 31/10/07 at 11:33 AM

And don't forget, it's Bernie that pulls F1 strings, not Max.

Max is having to sort out Bernie troubles.


Paul TigerB6 - 31/10/07 at 11:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
Lewis certainly is a talent.

BUT, if a rookie can step in and do so well, there is a basic fault with the competition! Basicly there is none!!




Cant blame Lewis for that though!! He prepared for the Brazil GP by playing on his Playstation and it seems that F1 has turned into little more than a computer game with so many electronic aids - is it any wonder he did so well?? Whether he's a rookie or not is totally irrelevant in my book - if the rules make the cars so easy to drive he can be on the pace within months then who's to blame for that??


BenB - 31/10/07 at 11:52 AM

The trouble is, when they tried to ban traction control and other forms of electrical trickery people "forgot" to update the ECU EPROMs so they accidentally still had it. Unless you're going to give the manafacturers sealed ECUs you have to assume traction control is going to happen.... Personally I'd prefer F1 if it was a one-make drivers championship. Give the drivers a car on the Friday, give them 24 hours to set it up to their liking, engine / ECU etc all sealed and locked out of the way. Everyone's equal and the winning driver is the best driver. End of....

I think the idea behind the two-race engine thing was so that it was cheaper for teams to take part... Then again, you kind of wonder how much research teams had to do to make sure engines did last two races!!!


Gergely - 31/10/07 at 12:33 PM

One make series would be nice. And pulling the ECUs from a hat just half an hour before the start of the race to make sure they are all the same, or if played with might help your competitor...
But a one make series would not help developing gadgets that eventually make our cars better (decades later of course).

But I would also like to see Hamilton and Alonso in exactly the same cars as Sutil and Rosberg...


scoobyis2cool - 31/10/07 at 01:05 PM

Max seems to be forgetting the fact that Lewis didn't actually win this year. The way I see it there were 4 drivers competing for the championship this year rather than the usual 1 (Schuey). Until Lewis starts trouncing everyone I don't see how Max can justify saying stuff like that.

Pete


britishtrident - 31/10/07 at 01:17 PM

Against a background of racialist abuse directed at Lewis Hamilton from some Spannish web sites Max is on very sticky ground saying anything about Lewis Hamilton in view of Max's past activities as an election agent for his father's post war fascist party, in the 1959 election they used the slogan KBW - Keep Britain White.

http://www.historytalk.org/Tom%20Vague%20Pop%20History/Chp%201.pdf

The Bernie and Max double act ended during the 2005 Indy fracas, ever since Bernie has been trying to moderate Max's more extreme dictats.

I suspect for Bernie making the deal is everything (and a place in the history of F1) for Max it is all about using and abusing personal power. Perhaps Bernie should follow the example of Bernie Winters -- and get a very large dog --- it is much less likely to be rabid.

.

[Edited on 31/10/07 by britishtrident]


ChrisGamlin - 31/10/07 at 01:18 PM

Sign it and spread it around!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Mosley

400+ signatures since it went up on BBC 606 chat about 2 hours ago, if it gets overwhelmingly large it may at least shut him up for a bit (although i doubt it).


jabbahutt - 31/10/07 at 01:26 PM

I'm bored of the whole thing off the track and only midly entertained occasionally on the track.

Maybe the drivers should all be made to drive locosts as that would level the playing field and would be much cheaper for all the teams concerned

It would also be much more interesting to watch all the pit stuff to see how the experts put there cars together and set them up


scoobyis2cool - 31/10/07 at 01:32 PM

To be honest I quite enjoy the off-track politics because it can add an extra dimension to the racing. For example the whole Lewis/Alonso battle. I found the racing this season to be the best for a long while, and hopefully it'll get better next year when they ditch traction control.

Pete


andyps - 31/10/07 at 02:05 PM

Michael Schumacher winning all the time wasn't the problem (although I was never a fan of his) - it was the way MM's favourite team went about making him win that was the problem - think of all the ludicrous team order tactics that were used which brought the sport into disrepute (except the FIA didn't notice that bit!).

It is high time that the Son of Sir Oswald Mosley resigned to stop creating the level of disrepute he does to F1. In my view comments such as this are totally unacceptable from the President of the body, and whilst he is certainly talking out of his arse this time i don't think it is the first time recently.


F20 POWERED RUSH - 31/10/07 at 02:41 PM

For my twopence worth, I think very sinister things were at work. No1 with such a huge fine to Mc Laren surely to shake the investers confidence also perhaps Santander wanted Alonso to win. No2 Bernies pit lane comments as to why should Hamilton win Alonso shoud be champion surely he should be impartial in his position perhaps serious money was at stake. No3 Do modern F1 cars really suffer the temporary electronic / hydraullic faliure which Hamilton had as he was charging through the field.


designer - 31/10/07 at 04:32 PM

The 'temporary hydraulic' failure was Lewis knocking a switch on the steering wheel.


thunderace - 31/10/07 at 04:40 PM

tax dodger


scoobyis2cool - 31/10/07 at 05:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by thunderace
tax dodger


Paul TigerB6 - 31/10/07 at 06:00 PM

Does this sum things up at all from - http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2007/10/7014.html ??

Q: For Luca di Montezemolo as well?
MM: With di Montezemolo it is different. He is chairman of Fiat and President of Italian business lobby Confindustria. My relationship with him is very personal.


Q: Is Ferrari more important for Formula One than other teams?
MM: Yes, firstly, because it holds a historically important position, as the team has been involved in Formula One since 1950. The second point has something to do with existential orientation: imagine that there were only one British team and all other teams were Italian, that the commercial rights holder was Italian, as was the FIA President, the race director and his assistant and the sport’s commissioner. Wouldn’t it be understandable that this team would be very careful? I therefore use my neutrality with a huge amount of responsibility and stay in close contact with Ferrari to assure them that no British ‘mafia’ or cartel tries to take advantage of them. But should we find it necessary to impose our technical or sporting regulations, than Ferrari is treated like any other team. Should we find irregularities on a Ferrari - like the moveable floor after the Australian Grand Prix - it is removed and banned.


Interesting bit about Alonso at the end too!!

[Edited on 31/10/07 by Paul TigerB6]


britishtrident - 31/10/07 at 06:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by F20 POWERED RUSH
For my twopence worth, I think very sinister things were at work. No1 with such a huge fine to Mc Laren surely to shake the investers confidence also perhaps Santander wanted Alonso to win. No2 Bernies pit lane comments as to why should Hamilton win Alonso shoud be champion surely he should be impartial in his position perhaps serious money was at stake. No3 Do modern F1 cars really suffer the temporary electronic / hydraullic faliure which Hamilton had as he was charging through the field.


Ask the Red Bull drivers about hydraulics glitches ;-)


omega 24 v6 - 31/10/07 at 08:29 PM

quote:

My relationship with him is very personal.



quote:

I therefore use my neutrality with a huge amount of responsibility and stay in close contact with Ferrari to assure them that no British ‘mafia’ or cartel tries to take advantage of them


HOW THE F**CK does that work???? Sort of explains this years scenario


ChrisGamlin - 1/11/07 at 01:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
The 'temporary hydraulic' failure was Lewis knocking a switch on the steering wheel.


That "story" came from some Canadian journo fabricating a story that quoted Hamilton admitting to pressing a button, but in fact Lewis had never said anything of the sort and had never spoken to that journo at all.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63645


andyps - 1/11/07 at 11:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
I therefore use my neutrality with a huge amount of responsibility and stay in close contact with Ferrari to assure them that no British ‘mafia’ or cartel tries to take advantage of them.
[Edited on 31/10/07 by Paul TigerB6]


So MM's actions have been neutral? I think he has shown that he rejects anything British because the British rejected his family. Maybe it would be better to show neutrality when the Italian mafia try to take advantage of his special relationship with the boss of an Italian company.


RK - 2/11/07 at 12:32 AM

So to sum up: Moseley is an idiot, the cause of which can be one of the following:

a) genetics, being related to a nasty person
b) he's in Marlboro/Ferrari's pocket
c) incipient mental incapacity caused by Alzheimer's/dementia/God-knows-what

I'm sure his pension would be pretty good. I don't know what he's waiting for. I hate going to work myself.


Peteff - 2/11/07 at 09:40 AM

Like they have a switch on there that will disable a critical system during a race He probably caught it with his elbow while he was answering his mobile