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02GF74 - 22/2/08 at 10:01 AM

let's say there is a kitchen floor with ceramic tiles appox 6 inch square that are uneven and/or loose and the intention is to fit a wooden laminate floor.

In theroy can a chisel/mr grinder with appropriate tile cutting sisc be use to trim the tiles around the kitchen units (units notto be moved)?

Also let's say there is a gas cooker in the kitchen, connected via flexible hose - is there likely to be a tap that can be truned off to disconnect the cooker so it can be moved to access the floor?

And then to level the floor, could san be used, a layer of felt put on top and then the boards?

Ta muchly.


Puk - 22/2/08 at 10:04 AM

Don't know about the floor work, but the gas pipe should have a bayonet fixing with a self closing valve on it if it meets current regs.


Dangle_kt - 22/2/08 at 10:30 AM

We had a problem with our kitchen floor, and we ended up having to get it concreted level, everything else would have been a bodge which within 6 months would be uneven again.

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Originally posted by 02GF74
let's say there is a kitchen floor with ceramic tiles appox 6 inch square that are uneven and/or loose and the intention is to fit a wooden laminate floor.

In theroy can a chisel/mr grinder with appropriate tile cutting sisc be use to trim the tiles around the kitchen units (units notto be moved)?

Also let's say there is a gas cooker in the kitchen, connected via flexible hose - is there likely to be a tap that can be truned off to disconnect the cooker so it can be moved to access the floor?

And then to level the floor, could san be used, a layer of felt put on top and then the boards?

Ta muchly.


timcullen - 22/2/08 at 10:41 AM

If you only remove the tiles up to the units your levels well be all over the place and it will be a nightmare to fit the laminate.
Uplift all the old tiles as far under units as you can. If sub-floor is very uneven either hardboard if wooden or latex if concrete. If the floor is not too bad and you are fitting a laminate use a thick laminate underlay e.g. multitex at 4mm thick should do the job. Then you have a perfect base to fit on top of! Cooker should just disconnect at the bayonet fitting on the end of the rubber hose!


DarrenW - 22/2/08 at 11:07 AM

As said above if floor is that out you need to remove as many tiles as possible and fit new level sub floor or screed.

Ive tried screeding sections of a floor (before kitchen was fitted - empty room) and it was only semi successful. There was still minot imperfections in the floor and it could be felt under the laminate (and this was after shimming with foam and cardboard).

Another floor i did was quite level but a dip where i took a wall out. This was successfully shimmed.

Another floor had a step down from kitchen to utlity (approx 25mm). The solution here was to fit a sub floor in lower part which worked a treat. The new sub floor was a pleasure to fit flooring onto. Far better than old concrete floors.

You may find the tiles are fitted ontop of a thin ply base. ive certainly had experience of this before. The tiles were a nightmare to get up and only solution in the end was to rip up the ply as well to leave a fairly level floor to put the laminate on top of.


Can you not lift the loose tiles and relay them? Maybe redo the grout or are they horrid and a mile out?

My pet hate is trying to fit laminate flooring around cupboards. Even though it costs more always fit the laminate fully before fitting he kitchen. Far less hassle levelling the cupbards etc. If i was you id get a company in and see how much they want.


Defo use good laminate underlay. Ive been quite surprised how much of a difference it makes. I used the 4mm thick rubber foil back stuff last time - well recommended - about £40 for 10m2 roll.


DarrenW - 22/2/08 at 11:17 AM

I was going to say - defo try getting the old tiles up ith Mr Angry Grinder.

What fun you will have being kicked from here to kingdom by Mrs 02GF74 for all the mess


Im hoping you may get some success taking the tiles back to an inch or so behind the kickboards and then fit a thinnish ply base. You may be able to shim under the ply pieces if the level isnt too far out.
Getting tile adhesive off might be worst bit - lets hope they have been put down well. fingers crossed for you.

Unfortunately its one of those jobs that you cant know whats involved until you pass the point of no return.



Has your washer recently leaked and damaged the tiles???????? wink wink


Puk - 22/2/08 at 12:53 PM

What ever you do you'll have to take your hands of your chest - so could we have a new picture?