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IF YOU'RE SELLING SOMETHING..........
D Beddows - 20/3/08 at 10:21 PM

Sorry to shout but it's starting to get silly....if you're selling something can you please tell us how much you want for it!!! - this latest fad for posting wishy washy messages saying things like 'I'm just testing the water' or 'I've got no idea what it's worth and I don't want to rip anyone off' are just getting annoying!!! - these things apparently for sale must be worth something to the sellers or logically they would be offering them for free......so rather than make us waste everyones time playing the equivalent of 20 questions or similar for heavens sake tell us what that value is!!!! - if it's too much after all no one will buy it/them and you can either think again or lower the price!!!!

Sorry, rant over


matt.c - 20/3/08 at 10:23 PM

Is this aimed at me then?


D Beddows - 20/3/08 at 10:25 PM

It's not aimed at any one person there have been LOADS of these recently!


smart51 - 20/3/08 at 10:32 PM

Sometimes people don't know what the market value of this is.


Paradoxia0 - 20/3/08 at 10:32 PM

Now you mention it....

I'm thinking of selling my Viento... What do you think it is worth before I advertise it?

Only kidding
(hey, someone had to!)

[Edited on 20/3/08 by Paradoxia0]


Benzine - 20/3/08 at 10:41 PM

Chill out, babe! What's the point in this thread? Sorry if I offended you by trying to get an idea of what my bodywork is worth. I have no idea and I don't need to rush into selling it, by taking my time I can gauge interest and prices and myself and a buyer can get a good deal. I've made one thread on the subject, all the posts on the matter are within that thread.

[Edited on 20/3/08 by Benzine]


D Beddows - 20/3/08 at 10:43 PM

OK, and again this wasn't aimed at you in particular but if you'd have said I've got a full set of 2nd hand bodywork bodywork for sale - £500 or near offer people would have known if they were in the ballpark of being able to afford what you want for it and could either have made you a decent offer or just moved on to the next option - plus you may have already sold it rather than having people waste time guessing how much you want for it.........

Otherwise I'm telling you now it's worth £50 and I'll have it off you....... no? - see my point??



[Edited on 20/3/08 by D Beddows]


colt_mivec - 20/3/08 at 11:02 PM

Something is only worth what a willing buyer and a seller are willing to agree on.

Thats what the guy who valued my house said


DarrenW - 20/3/08 at 11:11 PM

I dont quite see whats wrong with a mate asking another mate what something is worth. Thats the problem with our beloved hobby - its very specialist therefore normal market forces dont apply - other than ts worth what the buyer is prepared to pay.


locoR1 - 20/3/08 at 11:11 PM

Funny I’ve just finished writing my listing for my set of greengauges to go on ebay at the weekend and was thinking of posting link to ebay on here with the words “ I have no idea what they are worth if anybody on here wants them make me an offer or get bidding”


Benzine - 20/3/08 at 11:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows

see my point??




no

[Edited on 20/3/08 by Benzine]


DarrenW - 21/3/08 at 12:05 AM

If someone doesnt know what something is worth arent they just begging you to put in low but creditable bid to clinch the sale and bag a bargain.


gazza285 - 21/3/08 at 12:53 AM

"Ashton In Makerfield"

Do/did you know Alan Barnes?


TGR-ECOSSE - 21/3/08 at 09:28 AM

These are the rules for the for sale section of the Scottishmini forum. It does help as you can see how much the item is and where it is at a glance.


For Sale Thread Template - MUST be used in all threads.

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Item Title:
(write on this line) (as per thread title)
(leave this line blank)
Item Description:
(write on this line)(be as detailed as possible)
(leave this line blank)
Pics:
(write on this line)(delete this section if you have none)
(leave this line blank)
Location of Item:
(write on this line)
(leave this line blank)
Price:
(write on this line)('Offers' is not a price, numerical values please)
(leave this line blank)
Postage:
(write on this line)(give a price if possible)
(leave this line blank)
Contact:
(write on this line)(Simply saying 'Use PMs' is fine, there is no need to give out email address or phone number)


fatfranky - 21/3/08 at 09:33 AM

Another forum that I visit has recently introduced some selling rules, heres an extract

General rules.

This is a FOR SALE forum, where you place items FOR SALE.

If something is offered for sale, it has a price. So tell us what it is.
Dont say "offers" or "bids" without giving a guide price. Its not cricket, it puts off buyers, and it encourages comments from others. That makes more work for us, watching for "sh1t" happening and deleting offal from for sale

They also state that if you want to start a bidding war- put it on ebay

Food for thought?


David Jenkins - 21/3/08 at 09:36 AM

As a possible customer for some stuff, if I don't see a price I'm not interested. Too much potential for hassle as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sure other 'customers' have a similar view - a point for sellers to consider?

[Edited on 21/3/08 by David Jenkins]


RazMan - 21/3/08 at 10:26 AM

I must agree with David - If I don't see a price then I don't take it seriously.

It reminds me of my trip to Egypt (sort of) when all of the markets don't have prices displayed and when you ask how much an item is, they give you a grossly inflated price so that you can barter them down to a realistic one ..... I hated that but it's deeply embedded in their culture so when in Rome etc.

This is England so tell us how much you want for it!


Benzine - 21/3/08 at 10:29 AM




worX - 21/3/08 at 10:34 AM

I put a post up recently because I wasn't selling something, I genuinely wanted advice for a relative.
I did a search on ebay and on PH and found nothing similar so I thought I'd ask people who I thought would offer friendly advice.
So I know that your post wasn't directed just at me, but there isn't always an easy way to phrase certain things...
Steve


Hammerhead - 21/3/08 at 11:04 AM

you've gotta haggle!


Richard Quinn - 21/3/08 at 11:23 AM

In these days of the "global village" should we not also be considering any Egyptian members?


alexdj125 - 21/3/08 at 11:59 AM

I have recently also posted asking for the value of my striker, however I can see the frustration if no price is displayed, o how about this idea:

If you dont know the price, put up a thread asking people how much the item is worth, but don't say its for sale, and then when you are pretty sure of its value, wack it on for sale.

I don't see the harm in asking people what they think something is worth, but it is super annoying when you want to buy something and you are presented with an "offers please"

Only a quick idea so no stick please!

Alex.


Dangle_kt - 21/3/08 at 12:18 PM

If the item is for sale then I agree a price should be posted up. Saves a load of messing and also saves PMing people to find they want one billion dollars for an old nut and bolt.

Just my opinion, not aimed at anyone, but it does make for a better selling/buying environment in a forum.


zilspeed - 21/3/08 at 12:30 PM

I have a fairly straightforward approach to all of this.

If I see something I want and there is a price and I can afford it, I will contact the seller.
If there is no price advertised, or offers, then I'm not interested. Some-one else can have it.

That's all, nothing complicated there surely ?

If you like doing it a different way, then fine.

When it comes to selling, I want it sold NOW.
I advertise it with a price - usually low - and I receive a U2U within 5 minutes - usually, then I get some paypal money in and sent it off, then we can all get on instead of fecking about.

Again, not that tricky.


OX - 21/3/08 at 12:49 PM

i agree with beddows ,if your selling and not sure how much its worth then ask a price for what its worth to you. if we're buying stuff then most of us want to pay as little as possible or at least a bargain but when we want to sell anything we want the most we can get and arnt prepared to put our bargains back on the market


Mr Whippy - 21/3/08 at 01:09 PM

One thing that is guaranteed to put me off something is -

'Serious offers only'

Probably the most stupid thing anyone can put in an ad


TGR-ECOSSE - 21/3/08 at 01:19 PM

I have just realised i will be asking for help to value some of the stuff i lost in the fire so hope nobody mind when i post "how much is this worth"


Dangle_kt - 21/3/08 at 02:33 PM

I don't see a problem with, "how much is this worth" - but those posts surely don't belong in a "for sale" section?


Mix - 21/3/08 at 06:26 PM

I regard the 'what's it worth' posts as another example of people's apparent reluctance to search the site. Most of the information is already here but how often are the same basic questions asked? I accept that the search function isn't the best but at least give it a try.
The historical responses are frequently far more accurate than the 'Chinese whispers' that currently abound.

Give it a go! Mick


Benzine - 21/3/08 at 07:23 PM

Since the invasion of Iraq unofficial estimates of civilian deaths had varied from 10,000 to over 37,000. Just the other month over 100 Palestinians were killed in Gaza.

Still, that's nothing compared to how tough some of us have it here in the UK. Some people on an internet forum are having precious seconds taken away from them while drinking cups of tea reading through adverts for car parts.



ch1ll1 - 23/3/08 at 09:39 AM

stolen from the r1 forum

Best Example... How NOT To Write A For Sale Thread!!!

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I have some parts for sale and I want to be paid more than they are worth on the black market.
I did not include pictures so you will have to guess what those parts are and what sort of condition they are in.
I would like to be as vague as possible while getting maximum dollar for my parts.
I would also like to see as many people as possible replying to this thread to ask the basic questions that I could have eliminated by posting pictures and giving a good description of the parts for sale in the very first post.
I ONLY accept PayPal because I trust no one and I am an investor in PayPal, so the more money PayPal makes from the mistrust of people, by people, the more money I make. If you are not an investor of PayPal but use them, thanks for the profits derived from a false sense of security based on your root lack of trust, you'll still get screwed.
Also, this is just a FEELER, I may or may not actually sell these parts, it depends on whether or not I can get overpaid for them. Even with the millions of parts that have sold on Ebay and the many thousand parts that have sold on this site that I could use as a reference, I still have no clue what they are actually worth and will rely on my own arbitrary sense of value of these parts. Plus an inflated guess of what shipping would be, if shipping were by a slow team of former laboratory mice driven by a chain-smoking ex-circus monkey that stops at every tavern that ends in "Inn" or "Place." His estimated bar tab will be included in the estimated price for shipping.

Mods, feel free to make this a sticky as an example of how NOT to write a "For Sale" post.

To those that actually describe their parts for sale AND include a picture, THANK YOU!

Jeezuz....
__________________
Enjoy the ride.

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Last edited by bsgesch : 01-29-2008 at 06:01 PM.


Benzine - 23/3/08 at 10:43 AM


worX - 6/4/08 at 09:51 AM

help me..........

can't stop staring at the Hoff's crotch..............

please help???


gazza285 - 6/4/08 at 01:11 PM

That is just wrong.