It feels like I'm asking a dumb question, but I've been searching for an hour now, with no luck. All I'm after is the rough price to
install and run a zetec engine in a kitcar.
Does it NEED after market engine management and throttle bodies / dcoe's? Do they need new sumps, starters, bellhousing, clutches and
flywheels.
What I'm trying to get is a realistic figure for putting one in my car. I've been offered a Mondeo 2.0 zetec with all the ancillaries for
£120.... seems like a bargain. But what else is needed to run it, and run it to get through an SVA?
Not done a Zetec engine myself but it may help if you can find out the age of the engine due to different emission requirements which may mean a catalytic converter . It is possible to get an early Zetec running using a standard ECU (supposedly) which may cut costs?
You should be looking at the following for a decent spec install. I would run it on megasquirt and throttle bodies, solely because you have control
then.
Engine - £100 or there abouts for a lowish mileage one from ebay.
Clutch - you need a clutch plate from an early 1.6 or 1.8 mondeo to suit the type 9 input shaft. Should be about £30.
Type 9 and bellhousing - all standard here. Probably set you back £20-50
Megasquirt ecu - built you are looking at £300, they do come up secondhand and on ebay if you are feeling brave though. You want at least MS1 MSnS.
Throttle bodies and manifold - £50 for the throttle bodies and depending on your skillz either buying a manifold from boggs for £200+ or fabricate
your own.
So you are looking at around £500-800 depending on what you are willing to make yourself.
If you want to steer clear of injection go for sidedraught carbs or bike carbs. But depending on the age of the engine you may well struggle to pass
the emissions with carbs.
David
no doubt a silly question but why can't you keep the standard ecu to save money?
my crossflow to zetec black top 1.8 is currently at way over 2k and the engine is still not in the car, deepends on what power your after ect btw the engine was only £300 brand new!
Mine cost about £300 [converting from CVH] for a blacktop on bike carbs with megajolt.
Stu
a cut sump from Scholar engineering...
about £200 - £220 I think.
Depends how "ghetto" you mind it looking 
We changed a crossflow for a zetec for £250-300 including engine, bike carbs, megajolt, exhaust etc. but I doubt we could do it for that again (much
luck on ebay*).
*For example a 1.8 Zetec with loads of bits including new water pump, CVH sump, clutch etc. for £50.
Mine was....
Engine - £200
ECU - £200
Wiring - £50
Throttle Boddies - £150
Cams - £385
Flywheel - £250
Hydro Clutch - £180
Short Sump - £220
Water Rail - £150
Alternator - £150
Clutch - £100
Pullys - £40
Tuning and other bits bring it to £2500 ish, which is for a running engine 
i wish i knew that You can buy a new engine with Ecu and throttle boddies fully dressed, ready to run for bout £2.3k
Ill sell you mine for £1200
[Edited on 23/3/09 by Krismc]
quote:
Originally posted by pocket rocket
no doubt a silly question but why can't you keep the standard ecu to save money?
Thanks for all the replies guys. I'm thinking its going to be easier to go with something a little older and easier to install for the SVA. I
have the 1.8 CVH from the donor, and the type 9. I guess if I put that in, then after, or for a longer term project, I could use the parts of the 1.8
CVH to help install a 2.0 Zetec.
But how come no one uses the stock ECU and inlet manifold? Then upgrades later (I.E. after the SVA?)
Mine was like this..
Engine £200
Bike carbs £35
Megajolt £95
Clutch £20 (ebay)
Inlet manifold £00 made it myself
2.0 cams £30
DOHC Starter motor £10
Easiest is a 1.8 from an Escort, no sump chopping mods etc. Water pump goes the right way, flywheel is much thinner/lighter than a 2L one.
Clutch is from a 1.8 Mondeo with a Capri release bearing.
Stock ECU needs to tak to all sorts of poo on the Mondy, door locks, pats ring, leccy windows etc or it wont work. There is a one from cvh engined
Orions and Escorts that will, the carbed version with coil pack ignition.
Standard inlet is too big, either over the top of the engine or hangs down the back where you need your steering shaft.
If the motors cheap enough and you go with carbs it should be locost.
If you dont want the 2L for £120 I'll have it
Steve
Forgot to mention the above gave me 155bhp (flywheel) on the rollers.
[Edited on 23/3/09 by coozer]
The reason most dont use the eec-iv is most people dont like electronics and wiring.
Get a pre pats ecu and its not hard.
All you need is the loom out of the engine bay up to the three main plugs.
This Vid
Its running on the standard ecu but the carbs are running fuel due to not having a manifold.
Ive got two more ecu's from the scrapie that I am playing with at the min.
Cost, well my engine has cost the best part of £3k for 165bhp But I could install one with out a rebuild and all standard bits for about £150 that
will give you 136 bhp. Super chips come up on ebay and combined with a better exhaust and filter will give you close to 150bhp.
All down to what you can do for your self and what you have to pay others to do for you
quote:
Originally posted by deezee
Thanks for all the replies guys. I'm thinking its going to be easier to go with something a little older and easier to install for the SVA. I have the 1.8 CVH from the donor, and the type 9. I guess if I put that in, then after, or for a longer term project, I could use the parts of the 1.8 CVH to help install a 2.0 Zetec.
But how come no one uses the stock ECU and inlet manifold? Then upgrades later (I.E. after the SVA?)
quote:
Originally posted by deezee
But how come no one uses the stock ECU and inlet manifold?
have a look at marcel's site, he's running a zetec on standard induction and ECU.
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