OK money aside, I was wondering what the most reliable way of achieving 250bhp (or thereabouts) would be without compromising handling through
excess weight in a Seven type car? Bit of an open-ended question I know! NA or forecd induction, it doesn't matter - just must be fairly low
weight and not require rebuild every (x) miles.
Cheers,
Tim
How about a KLDE V6 - light , over 200 on just throttle bodies , and an easy 400+ with a turbo............plus japanese reliability
ca18det
Depends on budget i suppose.
Zetec Turbo wouldnt be too difficult, and relatively cheap. Go much more though, and youll need to consider new rods and pistons etc i would
imagine.
Failing that, the renault turbo engine is good for 230 as standard. Im hoping for mine to see 250, but thats with increased boost and a supercharger
rather than a turbo. The nitrous should add an additional 50 - 75hp.
bmw 328 circa an easy 230, m3 300ish.
2ltr Duratec
Duratec V6 on TBs should give you 250bhp with buckets of torque (that's what I'm aiming for anyway). One of the lightest V6s around too.
sr20det
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What he said! ^^^^^
What he said! ^^^^^ 
volvo T5, easy
volvo redblock, easier
and very cheap too
Yep, I had ~370bhp out of one (still in the car it came in ) on a standard bottom end, std compression etc - it had a lot of other bolt on bits
though
F20C (S2000 engine)
Wot he said ^^^^^
Phil
When I think light power and unlimited money the Holeshot racing V8 is impressive.
Two Busa lumps strapped to each other then bored out to 2.8.
Revs upto 10K and produces 400hp NA. 700Hp forces induction!
Cost about £8K though!!!
Dear father chrstmas
quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
When I think light power and unlimited money the Holeshot racing V8 is impressive.
Two Busa lumps strapped to each other then bored out to 2.8.
Revs upto 10K and produces 400hp NA. 700Hp forces induction!
Cost about £8K though!!!
Dear father chrstmas
quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
When I think light power and unlimited money the Holeshot racing V8 is impressive.
Two Busa lumps strapped to each other then bored out to 2.8.
Revs upto 10K and produces 400hp NA. 700Hp forces induction!
Cost about £8K though!!!
Dear father chrstmas
what about a mazda RX7 twin turbo 3rd generation they come with 252hp standerd,and later models came with 276hp standerd, not bad for a 1300cc engine!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-7
[Edited on 5-9-10 by spiderman01980]
From what I can gather the V6 is about 15kg heavier than the 4cyl Duratec.
The S2000 engine is an absolute belter, but it is pretty heavy (by modern 4 cyl standards).
Or you could go left-field and fit a Rotary! The 231ps RX8 engine is a peach and weighs a little over the 80kg mark. Mates to a sweet 6-speed box
too!
quote:
Originally posted by spiderman01980
what about a mazda RX7 twin turbo 3rd generation they come with 252hp standerd,and later models came with 276hp standerd, not bad for a 1300cc engine! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-7
[Edited on 5-9-10 by spiderman01980]
Great minds and all that!
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by spiderman01980
what about a mazda RX7 twin turbo 3rd generation they come with 252hp standerd,and later models came with 276hp standerd, not bad for a 1300cc engine! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-7
[Edited on 5-9-10 by spiderman01980]
quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
When I think light power and unlimited money the Holeshot racing V8 is impressive.
Two Busa lumps strapped to each other then bored out to 2.8.
Revs upto 10K and produces 400hp NA. 700Hp forces induction!
Cost about £8K though!!!
Dear father chrstmas
quote:
Originally posted by franky
bmw 328 circa an easy 230, m3 300ish.
3S-GTE will shove out 250hp all day long with it's eyes shut waiting for you to be more adventurous. In fact it'll happily go up to 300 on
stock parts, I drove mine round in this form for 3 years with no problems until I shattered a clutch launching the 1.5 ton 4wd on an 80K mile old
clutch.
Problem is finding a box that'll mate with it for normal 7-type/RWD use?
This has been my plan for the last 12 months until someone waved the idea of a BEC in front of me and threw a spanner in the works.
[Edited on 6/9/10 by coyoteboy]
F20C (S2000 engine) is an epic engine.
Yes, it is a bit heavy, but that's because it has been built to take serious abuse.
250bhp standard (for the JDM version that I have) and the standard forged internals can take 500bhp on boost.
Since you want reliable then go for an engine that produced that horsepower standard from the factory!
Options (4cyl)
Nissan SR20DET with matching gearbox
Toyota 3sgte with W58 or J160 altezza gearbox (direct bolt on)
or if you want NA you can't go past the Honda F20c from a S2000 also with matching gearbox
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Watson
quote:
, but it would be for a Striker and think it may be a little tall?
Cheers for all the replies so far,
Tim
Whoa a minute..
The striker engine bay is small (ish) and bonnet line low - plus they're designed to handle really well so weight and it's distribution is crucial
So why deviate from the engine it's now-a-days basically designed to have the 4AGE
Except go for:-
The 4AG-ZE, supercharged version 250 hp easy, Heavy Duty Type 9 nailed to it and bolts straight in..
spiderman01980 - 6/9/10 at 06:15 PMrx7 twin turbo!
you know you want to!
scootz - 6/9/10 at 06:25 PMThe only thing that put me off the rotary was the faff of arranging pre-mix on each fill of the tank. Not a problem at home, but would become a bit tiresome if away for a while.
That said... has any of the ECU companies managed to work in an effective oil-metering-pump control for them yet?
speedystew - 6/9/10 at 08:29 PMagree with jim spencer,the toyota has been well developed to complement the striker chassis
johnH20 - 8/9/10 at 07:43 PMHonda S2000 will fit in a Striker I have seen one and talked to the owner at a track day. Don't know his name but he lives in Danbury, Essex if that is any help.
Bl**dy quick car! (Might be worth asking RAW if they know who he is. )
ettore bugatti - 9/9/10 at 02:43 PMThe most reliable way would be without any tuning.
I think a Chevy small block with carbs could do it as well as any modern V6 (GM, Nissan/Renault, Toyota, etc.) with 3 liters and more.
Like the Honda suggestion.
procomp - 9/9/10 at 05:01 PMHi
If you get back to common sense regarding the handling weight etc etc. As Jim says above The 4ag with the 20 valve head. Or the zetec with a set of cams.
And real common sense would also say you don't need 250HP. There's very few chassis that can actually Handel that sort of power. 200Hp is more than enough and would probably see of a 250Hp motor as it was struggling to get the power down.
Cheers Matt