high anyone used zircotec on headers , if so how much did it cost.
ps: I will be sitting down !!!!

I haven't used them but they quoted me £600 to do this manifold which is what Simpson quoted to make a stainless one.



[Edited on 8/1/15 by Rich J]

I feel faint

I have a stainless steel header its to reduce the engine bay temperature , and a lot of sites say don't use exhaust wrap .

ps : its a Hayabusa system only want the 4 into 2 bit done ( first stage ) the rest is in fresh air so wont matter

http://www.camcoat.com/main/

Right on your doorstep

OOH! Just popped them an email
Thanks for that

forgive me if im wrong not the same stuff
camcoat is a resin based system and zircotec is ceramic plama based . the temp differences are immense.

i'm thinking it may be cheaper to send to the states , there's quite a few that do ceramic plasma spry over there.

From memory it was something like £500 to coat my manifold including the collector.

cost me 400 to do a RX7 manifold, turbo compressor housing and downpipe.
engine bay temps where reduced massively and although not recommended you could pretty much touch the downpipe minutes after a spirited drive

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Originally posted by bart
forgive me if im wrong not the same stuff
camcoat is a resin based system and zircotec is ceramic plama based . the temp differences are immense.

i'm thinking it may be cheaper to send to the states , there's quite a few that do ceramic plasma spry over there.

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Bart - problems with exhaust wrap?

I've bandaged the headers on my R1 to good effect, does really kill the temperatures (and noise to some extent). The transverse R1 lives behind a firewall (RioT) so things would get pretty hot otherwise. The system hasn't cracked, but then it hasn't been used to extremes (yet..).

in answer to the question " what's the difference ,

I have spoke to both company's ,

the resin based spray on systems reduce temperature about 100deg c so start at say 1300 deg = 1200 deg c

the plasma ceramic "arm and a leg" coatings say 33 % so start at the same 1300 deg c then its = 871 deg c

add an 85% heat shield and i'm down to below 130deg c and that's without the air gap ect

I stand to be corrected but that is what they said on the phone

I stated 1300 deg c as that's typical of a "racy" engine possibly a little more.

what ever I decide I have several temperature probes I can use , and it looks like I will have to see what I get.

I also have an infra red scientific camera so that's a double bonus

would still welcome any further thoughts ect.

Why not just use exhaust wrap? Its seemed to do a decent job for decades now?

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Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
Why not just use exhaust wrap? Its seemed to do a decent job for decades now?

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Camcoat can't have quoted 100 degree loss on 1300 degress, as none of there coatings are listed as covering that high of a temp!
Didn't they quote a % figure?

that's a good point she actually said 100 deg , have to admit id did not ask about the top temp.

I have randomly found an article in a race car mag regarding Zircotec. If you want it I can send it via email. U2U me if you want it, I cant get PDF uploaded on here.

One thing that's always baffled me with regards wrapping vs coating. If the wrapping keeps heat in the system and moves it downstream, how is coating a manifold any different? A certain amount of heat is generated by the engine, so it has to go somewhere and surely the coatings can only keep it in the system just the same as wrappings will?

Oh, another thing's just come to mind. How does the wrap promote rust on a mild steel manifold? As it's an exhaust manifold, why is it not far too hot to keep any moisture in the wrap? I guess there's something I'm not seeing.