Right, can every one reply with their engine name, bhp, total car weight and 0-60mph and 30-70mpg times. Thanks v.much
Alex
I have a 2.4 litre ford cologne v6 that makes 130 hp as std.
The car isnt finished yet, so thats all I can offer.
atb
steve
Xflow 1.6, standard from a fiesta XR2, 89 BHP is it? Or am I make it up as I go along? Anyway, it's sat on an engine stand in my garage, so it's yet
to reach 60.
Kingr
Ford 2ltr Zetec with Jenvey t/bodies, about 175bhp, car not finished yet but under 600KG would be good.
2lt pinto regulation 100+hp 5 speed type 9 to sierra diff 3.92:1 with discs all round.
not finished yet so speed of mine unkown,as for weight 600kg ish wont really know till i get it on the scales at SVA.
1.6ltr 4age engine. 127 bhp revving to 8000 with a lovely lightweight alloy head. still being built but looks good on paper.......
1300cc Crossflow, stage 2 head, twin 40's, 4 branch exhaust. About 70-85hp good for about 9ish seconds. 30-70 no idea gets to windy to look at watch after 60!
nice1, i have just got alot of my parts for my locost, i have a 2.0 dohc. I have no idea what kinda performance it will have, does any one know?
Mid-engine, US spec 4-AGE 112 bhp, weight around 1300 pounds 590 kg (est),
0-60 6 secs (est) 30-70 no idea.
All this feedback is helping me too.
I've devised a 0-60 formula (yes I know it depends on a lot of factors...).
It's t(0-60)=5.814*Log(wt in pounds/hp)
For Hicost it works out at 3.6 secs....right in the actual range.
Try it out and let me know. There are some examples that don't correlate very well, but in our weight and power range it isn't too bad.
Generally speaking the cars that are slower than the formula are front engine/rear drive and any that are faster are rear or mid-engined, so I'd guess
traction was the biggest factor at work.
The formula was derived from compiling the actual weights. hp and 0-60 times of many production vehicles.
[Edited on 30/12/02 by Alan B]
James
I love it when you do this ,it puts the whole perspective on petrol and exploding it right.
I'm sure JC in black jacket blue jeans and hush puppies would be proud of you.
Too much editing pissed again,sorry
[Edited on 30/12/02 by bob]
[Edited on 30/12/02 by bob]
hicost u ever think bout gettin ur ecu programed with anti-lag get ur boost to kick in that bit quicker and the flames as you change for 2nd gear would make a nice design of the odd ferrari/porsche front bumper
wot turbo u runnin the smaller /later escy one or the ealier type??
have u got the jets for the ouside of the intercooler or u gonna just run the water injection?
isnt there some way of plugin in a extra injector that fires into the turbo to get it to keep spinnin??
3.5 litre BMW engine with dogleg gearbox.
No idea about performance in the Locost but it'll be quick enough despite the slightly larger chassis that's needed. (Does 0-60 in 7.9 in the 2 tonne
tank Beemer) All about mid range with that engine though imo....
218bhp, 227 lb/ft...
Hoping for max 750kg total.
You'll all have to wait and see how it ends up....
quote:
1300cc Crossflow, stage 2 head, twin 40's, 4 branch exhaust. About 70-85hp good for about 9ish seconds.
Blade, 158bhp, 132@ wheels.
sub 4 sec 0-60, (3.65 best) with cheapo tyres, yoko's on now but no dry roads to try it on
30-70 not sure but pretty swift
132mph on rev limiter in 6th
under 450kgs
stops pretty quick too, except at roundabouts we forgot about (Jasper) and when i got lots a ballast in passenger seat at donnington chicane (PTM)
[Edited on 31/12/02 by Jon Ison]
gona build with 2.0is sierra (for reg) then will either swap for 3.5 V8(plus to be decided) or mi old faithfull 1660hybrid Kent lump.(twin 40's;
11:1cr; fullrace head; lightened, balanced, Nitrided, etc; race cam; piper lader rocker box; bout 180brk)
Just need to get inta me shed
[Edited on 31/12/02 by jollygreengiant]
2.8 V6 Cologne (injection) from XR4x4 - I'm told about 150 bhp(ish). Big heavy lump I know, but loads of torque for 'B' road fun. Will consider
higher state of tune if it ever gets on the road but cash is needed for other things right now.
Gearbox will be type 9 from V6 Crapi - don't know ratios.
De Dion Rear with LSD from above XR4x4 - don't know ratios again I'm afraid.
Total weight is hoped to be sub 600 kg.
Dont know how fast this will accelerate but it won't be slow.
Phil.
Alloy 24V 2.7 Honda V6 from police Rover 827. Just over the weight of a 2.0 pinto and 180bhp/170lbft. Good runners are 10-a-penny.
Phil - you dont happen to have any of that 4x4 still laying around do you? I'd be interested in the front axle and maybe the 4x4 sump.
Liam
Which gearbox mates up to the 2.7 lump? I have access to a good one for peanuts but never considered it because of the box dilema...
... tell me quick before it goes
Mark
need to b careful wit honda some rotate in the oppisite direction to the norm
This Honda goes the right way.
As for RWD gearboxes I thought there aren't any but I've heard some people saying LDV Sherpa van, or something like that. Can't vouch for that. I'm
making an adaptor plate to my 4x4 Cossie box. I actually have an adaptor plate to fit that engine to a toyota celica/supra box (when they were the
same) that I dont need.
It's physically a large engine (doub't it'd go in a standard chassis without widening the tunnel to move it backwards, or just widening the whole
chassis). Oh and wiring it up will be...time consuming, to say the least.
Lovely engines and they never break, but there are simpler options for a locost. I hereby accept no responsibility for any future headaches...
Liam
The 2.7 has been used in MGB's in the past, mated to either an LT77 (Weak and hard to find) or a Type nine with an adapter.
I imagine that the R380 box would do the job too (It's a new version of LT77), it's available in 2wd and 4wd (Land Rover).
Ian
2L 8 Valve Vauxhall Engine from a Cav SRI 130, on standard injection. 130 BHP not sure of torque but more than the 16V lump.
Mated to Type 9 box with alloy bellhousing.
Still being built but hoping for 0-60 in less than 6 sec or I'll spend more money on it!
Weight - as light as poss, plenty of carbon fibre! Don't know what an Avon weighs when finished.
Graham
Hi Liam,
I got my XR4x4 parts from a friend who breaks them to keep his rally car in the style to which it is accustomed.
He's in spain a the moment but if there's anything you want I can ask if he's got it.
Cheers,
Phil
quote:
Originally posted by ijohnston99
LT77 (Weak and hard to find)
here we go
vx 20xe 16v finaly should be running qed direct to head tbs and emerald ecu (any comments) and suitable cams, pistons etc. aiming at around 230 bhp
and awsome throttle response.
volvo 240 de dion axle with sierra disc brake hubs and xr4 lsd 3.6:1.
no frills stripped out alloy and cf body.
aprox 500kg hopfully and 0-60 in around 4sec according to similar caterham.
Ford 2.8 170 bhp 750kg 4x4 and 2 LSD's. Using Alans formula it should be around 6 secs 0-60 (5.5644154420499116491226181285678 to be exact) which is
what I would have predicted.
That ties in well with my MX6 which is 1200 kg and 200bhp and 0-60 of 7.5
Alan, What formula should I use to include the 2 LSDs and the 4x4!!! Are they going to improve the 0-60 time?
[Edited on 7/1/03 by ewanspence]
Rover (P6) V8 - 164bhp standard engine. LT77 box. Will eventually replace cam/carb, hoping (homemade) exhaust more freeflowing, so s/be just about 200
bhp.
Guestimating weight at 502kg.
P/W ratio s/be approx 400bhp/tonne
Sierra Cosworth was about 160. Take a guess on performance, but should be able to upset a few expensive "sportscars"
ATB
Simon
My car is under construction...But..
1.6 CVH engine with MCcarburators, TYP 9 gear box, volvo 240 rear axle, volvo 164 frontbrakes, (volvo parts is very common and cheap in sweden, but
the engines is to big and heavy).
quote:
Originally posted by ewanspence
.....Alan, What formula should I use to include the 2 LSDs and the 4x4!!!
900+ people on the site, and only 34 or so have engines in their cars according to this topic
atb
steve
Make mine a:
1660 711m crossflow block
Vulcan Maxflow 1 head.
Steel rocker gear
Lightened and balanced.
Twin 40 Dellorto DHLA carbs
Aldon Performance distrubor c/w lumenition
Hoping to find 115 bulletproof hp (somewhere)
The cars built as a race chassis so hope to be under 600 kg road legal.
Cheers
Dave
quote:
900+ people on the site, and only 34 or so have engines in their cars according to this topic
ok, mr pinto - is it cos you dont want to say you are on your second engine - still feel sorry for your setback there. Last thing I want to do on
my build is frig with the engine. Ran nice in the donor - its been cleaned and painted and thats the way it will stay until the car is finished.
900+ members.........
I remeber when there was only 220 or so when I joined last Feb, and beer was only sixpence a pint
im not that old btw!
beer will probably be 10,000 galactic yartis by the time the car is done 
Mine ran fine in the donor, and in the Locost for a while.
Yes it's a Pinto, I measured the bore on the second engine and it's the same as the first one, works out at 2096cc (both overbored) cam described as
fast road, don't know what that means. ITG filter
BHP? don't know! it's 98 as standard, what do you reckon, another 20 with the mods? possibly
I don't care - fast enough for me and my old reflexes.
Cheers
Chris
Just out of interest, I applied Alan's formula to my "normal" car - a VW polo 16v, weighing in at approx 1100Kgs, producing 100bhp.
5.814*(log(2420100) = 8.0. It's booked at around 10 seconds, which I'd say is a little on the high side, but not a vast ammount (I've never
accurately tested it or taken it to the limiter (I like my engine the way it is)). Having read an article on the Puma Racing site about car
performance simulators, I seem to recall that he uses a factor in the equation for the drive type, which would probably give a more realistic answer.
In it's current state it's probably pretty accurate for locost style stuff but rather less for lower performance, FWD stuff. Good work all the same
though Alan.
Kingr
Chaps,
Just been really sad.
Using Alan B's formula (hope you didn't mind Alan), I've done a spreadsheet of 0 -60 times for cars with weights between 425 to 800 kgs, and power 100
to 500 bhp.
And saved it in the photo archive.
Enjoy
ATB
Simon
Great. So what will give me 500bhp and 425kg's???
quote:
Originally posted by kingr
......In it's current state it's probably pretty accurate for locost style stuff but rather less for lower performance, FWD stuff. Good work all the same though Alan.
Kingr
quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Chaps,
Just been really sad.
Using Alan B's formula (hope you didn't mind Alan), I've done a spreadsheet of 0 -60 times for cars with weights between 425 to 800 kgs, and power 100 to 500 bhp.
And saved it in the photo archive.
Enjoy
ATB
Simon
Engine ford 2.9i v6, sierra running gear, not finished so I have no idea of performance.
regards all
1600 pinto, 2.0i 8v dohc, 2.8v6, 2.9v6 and 200sx. Don't know about performance yet, but I'm hoping the 200sx will give me enuf to scare me shitless, with and without the trailer I'm planning. Don't think I'll tune it as high as hicosts though, thats astronaut stuff.
Five engines in one car? I thought fitting a V8 in there was fairly crazy, but that just takes the biscuit!!!
Kingr
Making a few for friends and family, I'll do a head to head then decide whats the fastest and that'll be the one I'm having. All the effort I've put in for the body and suspension doesn't make it viable for just one. Make it for £250 but spent 20000000e20 hours doing it.
Just so I'm not one of the engineless wondercar owners.....
1300 x-flow along with bog standard escort running gear. Keeping it small due to cost - also it'll be the first car I've ever driven with anything
like genuine performance. Hoping to upgrade to a 1600 later on.
Nowhere near finished yet so any ideas of times or weights are only dreams!
Mk Indy Blade. Sierra running gear, LSD. Approx 470 Kg and 135 bhp (110 at back wheels).
0 - 60 best so far 5 seconds. But I was learning how to drive it then never timed it since.
Jim
Just picked up 1700 (ex Caterham) X Flow today. Hi lift cam, lightened flyheel etc.
Good for 135BHP - anyone any idea of 0 to 60 time?
Should be fast, AND gets fire from exhaust!!
well according to alans formula(and an assumtion of 550kgs for the total car weight) an approx calculation of 0-60 would be 5.5 sec. but with
lightened flywheel you may find a couple a tenths faster.
cheers
fin
hmm, 120 bhp at flywheel from 1.4 litre turbo. those are manufacture specs though, and i'm proposing a different diff and g/box from the standard, so the 8ish second 0-60 may differ. Engines from a Renault 5 turbo, and box will be from (dont laugh) a 340 volvo...
Those old Volvos were seriously overengineered. I was given an 85' 360 and have actively tried to drive it into the ground, 4 MOT's later it's still
going strong.
Slides nicely too 
ATB
Dave
Yeah, a mate of mine found out that they slide too, as it went through a sign post and halted just before a 10 foot drop.
Kingr