) Kingr
[Edited on 4/7/03 by kingr]
Has anyone thought of using this engine? I have only just found out how great it is, though don't know what gearbox would fit to it!
It's an all aluminium 2ltr 16v vvc engine as fitted to the latest civic type-r. It's 220bhpish as standard and they can be tuned to 300bhp,
400bhp with a supercharger. I know someone with a contact who can buy them ready to go (possibly new from honda) for £6k (dry sumped etc). These
people are using the engine as a base for their new trackday car project!
Anyone got any info / opinions on this?
Ned.
Easy tiger! LOCOST!
when ever anyone mentions honda engines, someone jumps in and says they rotate in the opposite direction to other engines.
This time its me.
atb
steve
PS
for 6 grand you could buy the tangerine ninja (a whole car) and keep 1k!!!!!!!
its hard to find any evidence of financial extravagance on this site!
[Edited on 4/7/03 by stephen_gusterson]
If i had anywhere near that much cash for an engine i would be going ZX-12 for 1500 Quid.
or two of them
Or 4 for that matter (I'm a smart arse, and I know it )
Kingr
[Edited on 4/7/03 by kingr]
BTW, according to my sources that engine has 200Bhp as standard, unless it's changed very recently.
I'd say that 300Bhp would be pushing it rather, it's pretty hot as it is, and would require thousands of pounds of modifications to make
half way durable. You'd be better off buying something like an audi RS4 engine. 2.7 litres, twin turbos, and 380Bhp.
Kingr
just for info, apparantly this one spins the right way Stephen!
(disclaimer: so I've been told)
Ned.
quote:
Originally posted by ned
just for info, apparantly this one spins the right way Stephen!
(disclaimer: so I've been told)
Ned.
quote:
Originally posted by ned
just for info, apparantly this one spins the right way Stephen!
(disclaimer: so I've been told)
Ned.
evidentally people this not a viable affordable route, as these are out of the latest civic type-r. that said i have seen a couple of them
written off on the a303, around chicklade i think (on the single carriage way bit at the bottom of the hill)
Ned.
There is the other option pick up a s2000 engine 6 speed geaer box limited slip diff for £3000 low mileage and your sorted, honda v-tec have been fitted look at play school, do components for slyva cars they say not to ask but might be worth a try.. http://www.plays-kool.co.uk/ download their brochure page 3 you'l see what i mean.
The Ariel Atom used a japanese 220BHP std Honda Type R , if they can do it, it must be possible - at what cost, ? who knows
It does appear that in the Atom that the engine is offset to the right (as you look forward) which with FWD/trans-mid power units is a usual sign of
normal rotation......(especially when compared to most FWD Honda units).....
However, as they are using the whole Honda powertrain lock, stock and barrel then rotation does not matter....
So, my point.....erm?...not sure I have one..
You could get your wrong way Honda engine and put it in back to front with a bike type adaptor on the front pulley and run a shaft from that to a
transaxle like the Renault or Porsche system. Didn't anybody else think of that?
yours, Pete.
I could think of 6000 things better than doshing out on a rice burner that no-one knows which way it turns!
You could buy a whole damaged Nissan Skyline GTR for £2500 and use the inteligent 4 wheel drive.
Probably get half your money back on the rest of the bits
Rick
Why is everyone worried about the engine rotating the "wrong way" around?
If you are using a rear differential, you can flip it over, and it will drive the car forward just like a regular transmission.
However if you leave the differential in the "normal" position, you will have a new car for reverse land speed records...
I'm not having a car that's cleverer than me
I have enough trouble with my bloody goldfish (keeps hypnotising me).
yours, Pete.
I seem to recall someone said the Skyline engine and gearbox was about 12 feet long or something, not great if unless you want a six seater or
something.
Kingr
The latest generation VTEC engines rotate conventionally, i.e. front pulley rotates clockwise. 230 bhp from a standard S2000 engine (and apparently
the latest Accord Type R's will have the same spec engine albeit in FWD form). There is already a Westfield fitted with an S2000 engine and box
(and at least one more on the way) and they go like f**k....
[Edited on 7/7/03 by Stu16v]
Blink Motorsport http://www.blinkmotorsport.com/honda.htm have the S2000 engines Westy (scroll down) - it's very fast, very, very fast....
I also have an S2000 and can confirn the engine spins the 'right' way, it's also reliable and the engine, gearbox and LSD can be lifted
stright from a wrecked S2000 (wait for autumn/winter, there are always a few about when the roads get slippery) for a lot less than £6k.
When I get bored of racing, the X-Flow in the Locost just might make way for an F20C (S2000 engine).
well, so it can be done for less than £6k. I get the opinion I haven't managed to convince anyone its locost enough though!
The £6k i mentined is for a spangly brand new engine from honda, so you're bound to be able to pick up a right off for cheaper....
Ned.
Honda K series motors do turn the right way I am fitting K2.4 from CRV into my locost check out http://www.clockwisemotion.co.uk.index/cars.html they sell bellhousings for T9 but here in Australia I used a honda bell with an adaptor plate to fit a Toyota W55 gearbox [Toyota supra] these motors have plenty of room for improvment George
quote:
BTW, according to my sources that engine has 200Bhp as standard, unless it's changed very recently.quote:
i was told the 2litre vtec in the type r produces 196 in the early models and 220 now, but the 2 litre unit in the s2000 has always produce 249BHP
ChrisGamlin - 26/3/06 at 03:53 PMWorth a read on a very impressive S2000 Westie install.
If its £6k for a brand new engine including a dry sump(?), thats not quite so bad when you compare it against the costs of getting other 2L engines up to similar power with dry sumping, although its certainly not the chepest option. It also depends what else the price includes because I can imagine it would cost quite a bit to set up a decent ecu to run it all properly with the Vtec kicking in properly etc, if it doesnt come/work with the stock ECU
Syd Bridge - 26/3/06 at 04:05 PM£6K would buy a very healthy small block Ford or Chevy, with gearbox, and a lot more than 300HP.
Cheers,
Syd.
MikeRJ - 26/3/06 at 06:34 PMquote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
£6K would buy a very healthy small block Ford or Chevy, with gearbox, and a lot more than 300HP.
Cheers,
Syd.
And you might even have enough change for the RSJ's needed to reinforce the locost frame with!
ChrisGamlin - 26/3/06 at 06:42 PMYep, and the railway tracks you'll need to get it round the corners you wish to navigate