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Type 9 Advice Please
John Bonnett - 17/9/07 at 08:43 AM

Hi Everyone, I'm looking for a Type 9 five speed box to go onto the Pinto and I should be glad of some advice on whether there are some versions of the Type 9 that will not be suitable.

For example, I believe that some have an extended shaft. I have also heard that some have an electronic speedo take-off rather than the mechanical one that I need.

If anyone can confirm that the above is correct and point out any other elephant traps that I might plunge into, I should be very grateful.

Thank you very much for your help, once again.

John


David Jenkins - 17/9/07 at 08:53 AM

Good info in this thread.


snapper - 17/9/07 at 09:06 AM

I have done extesive research into the type 9. The speedo take off is difficult to determine from the donor but i think the electronic speedo take off just clips to the standard gearbox out put.
Basically there are three types, 2wd, 4wd and a V6 long input shaft variety in 2wd and 4wd, uless you are very good at engineering avoid the 4wd that leaves the 2wd Type 9 with short or long input shaftThe standard short input box comes in 3 or 4 ratio sets, avoid the P100 box as the first gear is unusable for our applications ( 3.9 to 1) the diesel box is stronger but has a very long 5th but can take more torque.For simplicity Any Type 9 from the 1.3 to 2.3 engines will fit with its 3.6 1st gear.
The V6 type 9 has the most favourable ratios available in a standard box, the only better Ford box is the T5 Cosworth, pays your money etc.
I have fitted the V6 type 9 to a Pinto by using the Caterham gearbox spacer between the V6 box and a Standard bell housing with configuration the engine and gearbox together is now 30mm longer, you may need a Quinto Hazell CT133 clutch release bearing 8mm thicker and the Granada 55mm throw clutch pawl.
with this lot instaled you get a 3.36 1st gear closer second and third, better BHP and torque tolerance and with the right tyres and rev range 60 in second and 90 in third.


John Bonnett - 17/9/07 at 10:58 AM

Very many thanks for you help and clarification. Just what I wanted.

Cheers

John


David Jenkins - 17/9/07 at 02:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by snapper
I have done extesive research into the type 9. The speedo take off is difficult to determine from the donor but i think the electronic speedo take off just clips to the standard gearbox out put.



Not on the one I've got - if you look at the 'electronic speedo' gearbox, it doesn't have an output for a cable speedo at all, and the steel cup-shaped bung on the opposite side is replaced by a sender. This sender is bolted to a boss next to the sender hole.

I'm looking for just such a sender just at the moment... if anyone has one they don't want...


AndyH - 17/9/07 at 07:40 PM

What about the MT75. Plenty about good strong box, I've no doubt I'll be proved wrong.