Moorron
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 05:45 PM |
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Parking ticket rant/questions
Just got my first parking ticket and am fuming about it. now before i get 'just pay it' comments i would like to say i was in the wrong,
but under the conditions i feel it was wrong to issue it and i also think the ticket is wrong anyway.
so here goes:
was parked up in Merry Hill dudley this afternoon on the main retail carpark. i lazily parked the car which meant my drivers side was taking up about
1 foot of the ajoining parking bay. The carpark was 2% full and i thought nothing of it. came out of Decathalon sports shop to see i had been given a
ticket but i think its wrong.
First off the ticket has a list of 'contraventions' which the guy has ticked the one that says 'vehicle causing an
obstruction' but it then has in the 'other contravention' box writen by hand 'parked over 2 bays'.
However the box isnt ticked for this 'other' option.
My questions are this..
1: what is the standard fine for a UKPC ticket?
2: i was driving but its my girlfriends car who was with me (I am insured) does she have to name me when she replies saying she wasnt the driver?
3: has the ticket been filled out wrong by saying i was obstructing someone in an empty carpark and/or then filling in one of the other options
without ticking the box for it.
Who was i obstructing? i have taken a photo of it on my phone showing the full carpark also and i was doing this a guy said he saw the warden take to
close up shots of the car. i think i was lucky he had gone becuase im in a vbad mood anyway and may well have got myself into much more trouble.
im not paying the fine, but i just want to know what is the likley cost of loosing the arguement (as they never lose right?).
ARGH!
thanks lads.
[Edited on 18/9/09 by Moorron]
Sorry about my spelling, im an engineer and only work in numbers.
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nitram38
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 06:00 PM |
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Your not going to like this....nor do I, but tickets long term, make you modify your behaviour.
In other words, you will take more notice of how you park, where you park and notices around you. I've been caught out by badly signed bays
before, but now I double check.
Not the comfort you wanted to hear.
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 06:00 PM |
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I have been done like this, if you read the rules of the car park - in fact nearly all car parks it will say somewhere that you must park in one
bay.
I appealed because I couldnt park straight because of the idiot who parked crooked in the space next to the one I parked in and there was no more
spaces - I LOST, cost me £40.00.
I think you will end up paying it as it is a private car park they can make up the rules as they go along!!
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r1_pete
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 06:05 PM |
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If you were not obstructing anything, and your photo proves that, you have a fair case.
If a body is going to penalise you, they must be squeaky clean, they cannot say "oops I ticked the wrong box - makes no difference the
fine's the same"
Its the jobworth attitude of these t@@@s that anoys more than the ticket isnt it.....
Fight it!!
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02GF74
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 06:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Moorron
My questions are this..
1: what is the standard fine for a UKPC ticket?
you too £ 120 reduced to £ 60 if paid within 14 days, no need to know how I know that 
2: i was driving but its my girlfriends car who was with me (I am insured) does she have to name me when she replies saying she wasnt the driver?
pretty sure she has to name the dirver. there was this thing going that to name the driver you would incriminate yourself, doubt it would
work.
3: has the ticket been filled out wrong by saying i was obstructing someone in an empty carpark and/or then filling in one of the other options
without ticking the box for it.
Who was i obstructing? i have taken a photo of it on my phone showing the full carpark also and i was doing this a guy said he saw the warden take to
close up shots of the car.
you were obstructin whoever would have wanted to park in the next bay; doubt it holds much water with the court if noone wanted to use that
bay. you transgressed the rules that will be up on signs. tough titties I'm afrtaid
im not paying the fine, but i just want to know what is the likley cost of loosing the argument (as they never lose right?).
it will work out cheaper to pay the £ 60 and be more careful in furture.
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Moorron
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 06:09 PM |
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yeh i think im on a loser here. Just got back from Spain last night and was saying to her how everyone in britain just wants to ripoff the next and
WHAM!
it has modified my behavour already, i took the kitcar out and made myself feel better lol. i was thinking i might get a £60 fine so £40 after arguing
is worth the fun to be honest.
Sorry about my spelling, im an engineer and only work in numbers.
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Gav
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 06:12 PM |
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If you dont pay i *think* the only thing they can do is take you to small claims court as the only thing you have done is breach of contract, by
parking your car on their private land you are accepting the "rules" of contract as written on the signs.
I left my car in a retail car park as i had been drinking and there was no where else to leave the car, came to pick it up in the morning and had been
given a £50 fine
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turbodisplay
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 06:25 PM |
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The only tickets you have to pay are from traffic wardens and council wardens. If it is some company that enforces this, is not leagaly
enforceable.
My friend got one and they kept sending to him, still hasn`t paid and that was about 3+ years ago!
Darren
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SteveWalker
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 06:45 PM |
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From what I've read in various places: If you get a ticket from a parking warden or the police on a public highway, then you must pay. If
however you get a "ticket" from a private company in a private car park, then you do not have to - they can ask the DVLA for the
registered keeper's details and write to them, but they can simply say that they were not the driver (this means that they cannot have consented
to the rules on the signs and therefore have not entered into a contract and cannot themselves be held liable) there is nothing in law that allows the
parking company to demand the driver's details (they will however keep trying and may send threatening letters, but your gf can respond that she
cannot/will not name the driver and that any further letters will be considered harrassment).
Google on this subject and you'll find heaps of information.
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oadamo
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 06:51 PM |
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hi if you read you can say our car was broke down. if you get a invoice from a garage wink wink. they will right it off 
adam
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 07:15 PM |
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as others have posted,unless it is a council car park,the "contract" is between the driver and the car park operator,ask them to name the
driver who may or may not be the registered keeper,if they cannot name the driver then tell them to swivel.
have a word on pipepo (sp) or piston heads for a standard letter to send.
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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scootz
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 07:30 PM |
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Have to start by saying that I'm a considerate parker!
I have however had a couple of dubious 'private' parking ticket and I've ignored them all. None ever came to anything.
Don't know if I'm just lucky, or what... ???
I take the stance that it's not in their interest to pursue it as the time / costs incurred by them to take me to court is grossly
disproportionate to the initial 'fine'. For every one of me, there'll be another couple of dozens of suckers who cough straight
up!
If it's been issued by a Police Parking Warden or a Council Parking Warden, then it's a completely different ball-game! PAY IT! Folk
have had warrants issued for non-payment and some have even gone to jail (admittedly, they took the piss!). 
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tomblyth
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 07:42 PM |
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listen to this on i player it was on radio 2 today!!
Tom link
[Edited on 18/9/09 by tomblyth]
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whitestu
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 08:52 PM |
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Definately don't pay. I've appealed the last two local authority tickets I got and got a standard response saying that although thoey
don't accept I was right they are using their discretion to waive the fine.
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Benzine
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 09:06 PM |
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I've only ever had one parking ticket. I parked in one area and used the wrong machine which was meant for another area where it was about 20p
more expensive.
I then wrote them a letter spinning a web of lies and fabrications. I told them great, massive lies with fecking bells hanging off them
I was let off. Ha! Idiots! I win!
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Moorron
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 09:15 PM |
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found a website on just this company. bassically its a con, dont pay or even respond to them.
sorted then.
thanks for info on here too.
made my day.
Sorry about my spelling, im an engineer and only work in numbers.
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Andi
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| posted on 18/9/09 at 09:50 PM |
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Yeah it means naff all on a private park, unless they clamp you and that has changed from today I believe.
Look how many people ignore the disabled parking spaces in supermarket car parks.
A little bit immoral maybe but they certainly arnt bothered.
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RoadkillUK
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 06:27 PM |
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Don't be so lazy next time and park up properly, have you no pride?
Roadkill - Lee
www.bradford7.co.uk
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MikeLR
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 08:37 PM |
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Family friend was "done" in a similar fashion, was given this link.
See below.(hope it works)
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?autocom=ibwiki&cmd=article&id=56
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 03:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
Definately don't pay. I've appealed the last two local authority tickets I got and got a standard response saying that although thoey
don't accept I was right they are using their discretion to waive the fine.
If they don't accept you were right then why aren't they chasing you for it? They can screw you for more and more. They know they're
wrong and don't have the balls to admit it.
Yeah if it's a private car park ask them for proof the car was there (if they send anything in the post)
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