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scootz

posted on 6/11/10 at 08:05 PM Reply With Quote
Weller Steel Wheels...

Anyone know much about them... the word 'steel' implies heavy, but then they're used on Formula Fords, so can't be that weighty... can they???





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marcjagman

posted on 6/11/10 at 08:11 PM Reply With Quote
Steel wheels aren't any heavier than the average alloy, some are lighter.
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snakebelly

posted on 6/11/10 at 08:12 PM Reply With Quote
not incredibly light compared to modern alloys but very very strong and not as heavy as you might think, i have 3 sets for racing and am very happy with them.
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Stott

posted on 6/11/10 at 08:23 PM Reply With Quote
I can't claim to know anything about wellers but IMO steel wheels are always lighter than alloys except in the extreme cases such as TD pro race's, superlegggeras etc.

I was a mechanic for years, lifting the bloody things on and off, day in day out and steels were always easier! lol

This "lightweight alloy wheel" sales blurb is just that as far as I'm concerned, it's all bull as alloys are so chunky so they don't break they end up weighing a ton. As stated above though, if you went out and bought speedlines, compomotives, OZ magnesiums or team dynamics pro race etc etc etc, they would be lighter than the steel counterparts, or so you'd hope..................


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T66

posted on 6/11/10 at 09:24 PM Reply With Quote
The little Fiat might be getting modular wellers with hubcaps....


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iank

posted on 6/11/10 at 09:25 PM Reply With Quote
I weighed a 13"x5.5" Weller on my bathroom scales (wheel+me) - me method at 5.45kg.
Lighter than most OEM alloys.





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scootz

posted on 6/11/10 at 09:27 PM Reply With Quote
5.5kg is perfectly respectable!





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Stott

posted on 6/11/10 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
I had 15" superleggeras that were 4.7kg each!!!!
IIRC, they were lighter than the tyres


but I bent one in a pothole and couldn't get a replacement


as I said though super specials like these are the exception

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trextr7monkey

posted on 6/11/10 at 09:37 PM Reply With Quote
Hi, I can claim some knowledge on this topic as we have had 19 vehicles mostly sporting Wellers- made originally by Les weller in batches often to suit kit cars with deeper offsets than readily available,
Come in 2 sorts- the 8 spoke - favoured by Jeep type vehicles - Jago, Rickman Dutton Sierras Eagle RV s etc and latterly made fro Suzukis and Land rovers- powder coated usually white and very stong although they do come in chrome and badly rusted flavours too, the other has circular holes and is usually called "racing" as it was used more on track/ road cars than the 8 spoke.
Helpfully the measurements are always stamped on the wheel - diameter and offset etc

10" were made in spectacular widths for Minis, 13" popular with some of the classic ford guys , 14" commonly fitted to a lot of the jeep type vehicles and 15" are sought after as not so many about. All sorts of odd sizes were made so it is a case of watching out for sizes you might want.
Have a set of 15s with big tyres stashed somewhere and some 14s with BFGs fitted, all Ford (as in Mk 2 escort) fitment
We once collected a set of 13" x 10 " wide dragster wheels for a mate from an e bay deal.
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TimC

posted on 7/11/10 at 12:36 AM Reply With Quote
I'm not sure what the current situation is, but when I last spoke the Weller, the massively amiable chap on the other end of the phone explained that they were in administration (or near-as-dammit; I can't quite recall) and as such they were unable to offer anything but shelf-stock... He sounded genuinely gutted that he couldn't help.






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hobbsy

posted on 7/11/10 at 01:32 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stott
I had 15" superleggeras that were 4.7kg each!!!!
IIRC, they were lighter than the tyres


but I bent one in a pothole and couldn't get a replacement


as I said though super specials like these are the exception


Yeah OZ Super/Ultra Leggeras are one of my faves. They don't make SuperL's anymore so I guess that's why you couldn't get a replacemet. Usually fractionally lighter than the TD 1.2's and better looking IMHO.

5.5Kg for a 13 inch wheel is good for a steel but not that great for an alloy.

You can get Citroen C5 alloys that are made and look like steels but are alloy and are sub 5Kg.

CXRs are around 5Kg in 13x6 / 13x7.

I had a set of MB R500 mag 3 pieces 13's at around 3.5Kg but worried about their fragility, plus you really need to get them stripped and crack tested yearly which adds to the total cost of ownership significantly.

There are some others Dymags, and some cast wheels they made for Hondas which could maybe be re-drilled to 4x108 which are very light.

Image and Superlites never seem to be quite as light as they could be for 3 piece wheels, not much better than the best cast wheels but a lot more expensive.

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iank

posted on 7/11/10 at 10:09 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TimC
I'm not sure what the current situation is, but when I last spoke the Weller, the massively amiable chap on the other end of the phone explained that they were in administration (or near-as-dammit; I can't quite recall) and as such they were unable to offer anything but shelf-stock... He sounded genuinely gutted that he couldn't help.


When was that? The had recovered from one of those a few years ago and started selling direct from their web site - where I got mine. Last I looked they'd stopped selling direct but Polleysport and the mini companies are still advertising them.

http://www.wellerwheels.com/
http://www.polleymotorsport.co.uk/polley/index.asp





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