chris-g
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 03:07 PM |
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SORN - Can you keep the tax?
Hello All. Posting this on behalf of a relative. The situation is the car is going to be sold but the insurance will run out so will need to be SORN.
Is it possible to make a SORN declaration but retain the tax? Reason for retaining the tax is make the vehicle more attractive to potential buyers,
i.e. just insure the car and drive it away without having to worry about tax for the next 9 months.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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daveb666
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 03:11 PM |
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Can't you just keep the car 'off-the-road' ?
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big_wasa
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 03:12 PM |
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No, if its not insured you have to surrender the tax. The whole point is to stop people buying cars with a little tax and test and running them with
out insurance.
Pain in the arse for anyone genuine isn't it.
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ReMan
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 03:15 PM |
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No
Sorning will trigger a refund
Leaving it taxed without insurance will trigger a NIP I presume
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Slimy38
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 03:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ReMan
No
Sorning will trigger a refund
Leaving it taxed without insurance will trigger a NIP I presume
Computerisation of both tax and insurance databases makes this a whole lot easier to happen nowadays...
Chris, can you get some sort of very limited third party policy just to keep things ticking over? I don't know if there is some sort of
'zero miles' policy you can get? At least then you can keep it taxed. And I agree, it's a lot easier to sell a T&T'ed
vehicle.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 03:33 PM |
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In therory there is roughly a 2 week window before you will get agro from the DVLA .
If you pass the car to a recognised motor trader (ie a proper dealer or put it into auction) just complete the relevant part of the V55 and send it
off (recorded + keep photo copy of slip + stamped envelope) you don't have to worry about it.
But if a private sale unless to someone you trust I advise SORN online then complete paper SORN + Tax Refund form and send it off (recorded
+ keep photo copy of slip + stamped envelope) as for some reason if the paper SORN isn't i the same envelope it seems to cause delays.
These days if selling a car privately I would advise getting the new owner to sign a slip saying that he has taken on responsibility for insurance
and taxation from x date and time.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 03:34 PM |
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you could just stick it on a third part only policy for the lowerst milage you can get away with - but chances are it'll cost more than the tax
you've got left 
a couple of years back I managed to get my insurance to temporarily add my old car back onto my insurance at the same time as the new one (for upto a
month max.)
it was actually quite cheap at about £40 for the month I think
[Edited on 24/7/2013 by mcerd1]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 03:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ReMan
No
Sorning will trigger a refund
Leaving it taxed without insurance will trigger a NIP I presume
SORNing will not trigger a a roadtax refund the form must be completed on paper and the old tax disc attached.
Absolute minefield.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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ReMan
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 04:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by ReMan
No
Sorning will trigger a refund
Leaving it taxed without insurance will trigger a NIP I presume
SORNing will not trigger a a roadtax refund the form must be completed on paper and the old tax disc attached.
Absolute minefield.
Agrreed.
Its all on the V14 now so in actual fact using the tax refund form also declares the SORN
www.plusnine.co.uk
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chris-g
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 04:12 PM |
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Thanks for all the comments. It seems like the best idea is to SORN the car and accept a refund of the remaining tax. I will pass the comments on to
my relative. Its a shame that the SORN and insurance regulations have made things difficult for legitimate people who just want to sell their old car
when they have bought a new one. Slimy 38, I think you might have a point about temporary insurance, I am sure I have heard that some insurance
companies will cover the car you are selling for a short period of time while you sell it.
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Brook_lands
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| posted on 24/7/13 at 10:32 PM |
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I'm with Admiral, when I bought a new car, they were happy to insure my old car on a month by month basis seemingly indefinitely for about 50%
more than the monthly cost would have been had I insured it for 12 months. After about 3 months of this I got fed up of trying to sell it and decided
to keep it so took out a new 12 month policy on it.
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