westf27
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| posted on 5/9/20 at 07:37 AM |
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I dependant IVA testing
Chap was telling me that whilst the DVLSA are coping with covid that IVA testing is being
Carried out by some appointed agents.Anyone know anything about this ?
It's possible this is untrue but thought I would ask as I do need a test.
Haven't had any success in getting through on the phone.
Steve
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Deckman001
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| posted on 5/9/20 at 08:08 AM |
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Hi Steve,
As part of the IVA application form you can add details for a “remote test” this is a nominated person by you who is able to carry out the test for
them albeit via a mobile phone camera link to the main tester.
Am hoping my local mot testing station will be able to carry out the test for me.
There isn’t anywhere that mentions fees for a remote test though, so I’m hoping it won’t double up the costs !!!
Jason
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ianhurley20
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| posted on 5/9/20 at 08:08 AM |
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Its been an aim of DVSA to get rid of the responsibility for IVA testing and farm it out to independants. As far as I am aware this hasn't
happened yet. As far as getting through on the phone about an IVA its become almost impossible to get through. A friend paid his fee and submitted
paperwork in Feb. No contact about his test but he has tried for hours to get through and has succeeded only 3 times since. The last time 3 weeks ago
he was told to submit another (new) form and was told he should have been contacted to tell him so (they hadn't) Form submitted and was told
sometime (maybe) October for his IVA.
Kit cars are not seen as a priority at all it seems
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steve m
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| posted on 5/9/20 at 08:34 AM |
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I could be wrong, but i thought this third party places was for imports only
as the cars are already roadworthy, but do need a couple of tweaks, as in a fog light, and non flashing brake lights
This was certainly the case when i imported a car from New york, and Holland, a good few years ago
Having been to two IVA, not the newer version SVA, i can not see how an independent garage could test a kit car
steve
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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adithorp
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| posted on 5/9/20 at 08:35 AM |
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Deckman, that won't happen. Your local mot guy would have to have a whole load of extra equipment beyond what's used for MOT. Things like
calibrated rolling road for speedo check, certified scales for weight, noise meter, additional foot pressure sensor for brake test, cones/balls/etc
for defining edge test areas...
Steve,theres been rumours of IVA testing being privatised in various ways for years. Might happen one day but I wouldn't hold your breath. The
extra investment in equipment required rules it out for any temporary covid plan IMO
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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westf27
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| posted on 5/9/20 at 10:19 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve m
I could be wrong, but i thought this third party places was for imports only
as the cars are already roadworthy, but do need a couple of tweaks, as in a fog light, and non flashing brake lights
This was certainly the case when i imported a car from New york, and Holland, a good few years ago
Having been to two IVA, not the newer version SVA, i can not see how an independent garage could test a kit car
steve
What you say makes good sense and would fit with say an mot tester doing it remotely.
Anyway as a bit of fun lets guess what you imported
From New York it's a Chevy Nova
and
from Holland it's the Daf 44,styled by Michelotti
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steve m
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| posted on 5/9/20 at 10:59 AM |
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Anyway as a bit of fun lets guess what you imported
From New York it's a Chevy Nova
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from Holland it's the Daf 44,styled by Michelotti
Err No........... not even close
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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Deckman001
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| posted on 5/9/20 at 01:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Deckman, that won't happen. Your local mot guy would have to have a whole load of extra equipment beyond what's used for MOT. Things like
calibrated rolling road for speedo check, certified scales for weight, noise meter, additional foot pressure sensor for brake test, cones/balls/etc
for defining edge test areas...
Steve,theres been rumours of IVA testing being privatised in various ways for years. Might happen one day but I wouldn't hold your breath. The
extra investment in equipment required rules it out for any temporary covid plan IMO
You may well be right, the Iva application form only says the remote tester only needs a few things like cones, a plumb weight , 5m tape measure and a
few other things. There’s no mention of sound testers or brake testing equipment although as an mot testing station, it will have all brake testing
equipment and possibly speed reading equipment. The test is done via a mobile phone camera call to the dvsa tester so they can monitor the test and
maybe tell the remote tester what to do as it’s meant to be done, there’s even a possible chance they’ll put the phone near the exhaust to read the
decibels.
Jason
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adithorp
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| posted on 5/9/20 at 05:17 PM |
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Can't see how it could be done with just that stuff. For instance, the IVA brake test is different to an MoT one. They use a pressure sensor
between thier shoe and pedal to test at various pressures based on weight of vehicle. Mot centre won't have that or the weigh bridge. No mot
station has a set of speed rollers (no brake tester can't do it).
Let us know what reply you get.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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snapper
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| posted on 5/9/20 at 07:51 PM |
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Having been to several SVA’s and IVA’s I certainly don’t think any independents are doing (or should be doing) the type of IVA required for kit cars.
I have immense trust in the current IVA testers as it is about safety and not profit.
Fully concur with the comments about the equipment to do an IVA, you would have to have a very similar setup that DVSA have and enough space to do
some tests where the tester needs to drive the car, for instance we had a couple of cars where the tester took the car out on the large concrete pan
for a brake test when the rollers couldn’t tell whether the fronts or the rests locked first... and other stories from experience.
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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gremlin1234
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| posted on 6/9/20 at 09:14 AM |
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remember there are two types of iva test, normal, and basic
the normal one is mostly paper based...
from iva test manual
"For Normal IVA the onus is on the applicant to provide evidence of compliance. This may be in the form of:
* manufacturer’s markings on the vehicle,
* an EC certificate of conformity for an incomplete or base vehicle and details of the systems approved,
* documentary evidence from the competent authority in the country of origin or the manufacturer,
* submission of a VIN specific test report from an accredited testing authority or a combination of such elements, and
* it may also include a degree of visual examination and practical tests. "
so this may be practicable for remote testing.
but as others have said, the basic (full) iva ie the kit car test, is much more hands on.
[Edited on 6/9/20 by gremlin1234]
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