scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 15/8/03 at 03:49 PM |
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Indy crash tube
Does anyone have the definitive word on whether to use grease inside/outside/both when fitting the suspension bush crash tubes? If i do need to, what
grease do i need to use?
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MK Goldrush
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| posted on 15/8/03 at 10:32 PM |
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Grease 'em
Scoob, there is much controversy about the best lubricant to use on bushes etc. Generally speaking if the unit is rubber/plastic or rubber/plastic
based, then 'silicone' is the best medium for lubrication. Do not use standard mineral grease/oil as it will likely corrode the unit.
The washing up liquid approach is potentially a bit dodgy as the detergents and salts are there to 'degrease' and soften water. Degrease
and oil based unit? Surely not... I would not recommend it.
Stick with what you know to be right... I use silicone grease on 'O' Rings professionally for 10 years with no perishable results from it.
Silicone Grease may be a tad expensive, but at what real cost?
Good Luck!
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Rorty
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| posted on 16/8/03 at 05:04 AM |
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I don't think there's any controversy about which lubricant to use.
scoobyis2cool, I presume you're talking about polyurethane (PU) bushes? If so, you need to use molybdenum disulphide grease.
Silicone grease is widely used in the food and pharmaceutical industries, and doesn'y have the same high pressure additives as black moly
grease.
There has been some difference of opinion on whether to use a lubricant at all, but the majority of PU bush manufacturers and people generally
in the know, recommend only applying grease to the bore and end faces of the PU bushes.
The bushes are supposed to rotate around the crush tube, which in turn is "crushed" i.e. clamped tight in the suspension bracket.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
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Rorty
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| posted on 18/8/03 at 05:36 AM |
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Syd Bridge:
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Some (greases) have a vegetable or synthetic base, hard to differentiate, but makes a big difference
Sorry, should have mentioned that.
Red Line CV2 is a fully synthetic grease, and will therefore be compatible with just about everything, and is heralded as the best of its type.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
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Alan B
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| posted on 18/8/03 at 07:31 PM |
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Syd and Rorty in agreement.....
Group hug time?....
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MK7
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| posted on 22/8/03 at 02:31 PM |
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Confused
Some time ago I called Polybush UK to get their take on which lubrication to use. They said, use nothing other than a bit of soap to help insert the
bushes. I called Polybush because I mistakenly believed the PU bushes supplied by MK were from them.
I just called MK and they refused to tell me who's bushes they supply, however, they insist that silicone greas is to be used on the inner
(crush tube) face.
1. Anyone know whose bushes are suppliedby MK?
2. Any issues that I should be aware of when removing all my crush tubes so that I can get them greased?
3. Before calling polybush I'd already used a lithium based (Castrol LM) grease to grease my front nearside bushes, what can I use to clean this
grease off (or should I just leave it)?
4. How big an issue is the choice of lubricant anyway??? What's going to happen if the wrong grease is used?
5. Is there anyone out there that's going to nay say the use of redline CV2 or is this a safe bet?
Russell
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carcentric
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| posted on 22/8/03 at 03:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MK7
. . . 4. How big an issue is the choice of lubricant anyway??? What's going to happen if the wrong grease is used? . . .
Russell
Ask any woman of age - use the wrong lubricant and you'll be hand-packing your needle bearing more often than not. At least that's been
the bitter experience of this old fart! 
M D "Doc" Nugent
http://www.carcentric.com
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MK7
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| posted on 22/8/03 at 04:26 PM |
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But these aren't bearings are they?
At least they're not supposed to be from my understanding.
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JoelP
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| posted on 22/8/03 at 05:52 PM |
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i believe that PU bushes are meant to be like compliant bearings, with the crush tube rotating. Only rubber bushes are expecrted to deform...
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Rorty
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| posted on 23/8/03 at 01:57 AM |
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MK7:
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But these aren't bearings are they?
They are bearings, that's the whole point! The PU is the bearing element, and everything else should remain fixed.
PU is used for these bearings, as it's extremely resistant to abrasion, yet has some degree of compliance.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
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