Surrey Dave
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| posted on 16/11/03 at 03:50 PM |
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One for the Locost Boffins!!
DIGITAL SATELLITE TV
I see adverts for wafer cards ,and programmers, why do they sell them?
Is it possible to clone a viewing card or create your own if you can get hold of the codes?
You can answer here or send me an email if that would be more appropriate
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JoelP
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| posted on 16/11/03 at 04:27 PM |
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i though the commonest was to get a chipped box? maybe the cards are popular cos the box stays standard...
dunno how to do either though.
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ChrisW
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| posted on 16/11/03 at 04:48 PM |
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U used to be able to 'chip' ondigital/ITV digital cards to get all the channels. With the advent of FreeView obviously there is no
point.
Sky digital hasn't been cracked (yet!) so no way of getting around that. Analogue was crackable but it's gone now.
It also used to be possible to buy chipped cards for recieving 'D2MAC' encrypted European smut channels but I'm not sure how that
stands nowadays. I assume most channels are now digital which would make them far harder to crack.
There is a big court case currently on going trying to prove that Sky financed the cracking of the on/ITV digital encryption system knowing it would
ruin the technology leaving them the prominant player.
At the moment the only way to get any more 'free' channels is to get FreeView which does exactly what it says on the tin. Richer Sounds
sell the boxes for about £40.
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Brooky
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| posted on 17/11/03 at 10:37 AM |
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Eeerrrrr, I dont know that much about the subject officer but i am lead to believe that digital cable has been hacked and is quite easy to do ( if you
have the gear ) although 'spare' boxes are like rocking horse poo.
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ChrisW
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| posted on 17/11/03 at 10:51 AM |
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Ahh I don't know about digi cable. The old trick with analogue was to prise the 'green box' open and connect your house up to a
known live feed 
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 17/11/03 at 11:42 AM |
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I've seen old cable boxes on ebay that are 'unlocked' ,but they look like the analogue ones.
also i read somewhere that some satellite decoders can be modded to bypass the encryption part so you dont need any cards.
Anymore info?
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 17/11/03 at 12:05 PM |
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NTL's analog cable system can be hacked, its a simple box with an 8 pin PIC micro in it. However, I have legal NTL digital cable.
When sky were heavily relaint on the analog system (astra 1a - d) the cards COULD be hacked. This was simple to do by using a serial lead that was
attatched to the system via a dummy card. The other end of the serial lead went to a PC that ran a card simulator program. The simple design and
program (which needed updated every couple weeks) could be had from the internet. A guy called Markus Khun was a major person involved in the
cracking.
When sky went digital, and on later analog cards, they changed the encryption to a very high level hardware based system on the card. Its mooted that
even if this was cracked, there are reprogrammable systems on the card to switch to 'plan b' encryption if needed. The sky system hasnt
been hacked for several years,,,,,, looks like it wont be!
atb
steve
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 17/11/03 at 12:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisW
At the moment the only way to get any more 'free' channels is to get FreeView which does exactly what it says on the tin. Richer Sounds
sell the boxes for about £40.
Chris
Not any more - they ran out pretty quick, unsurprisingly.
They'll still sell you one for £50, £60, and so on.
DJ
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flyingkiwi
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| posted on 17/11/03 at 12:57 PM |
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dunno about cracking sky, but I've heard that if you change the telephone number that the sky digibox uses to confirm online bookings it
doesn't bill you. Something to do with the box trying to phone home but not reconising the number so it tries again. One of the guy's at
work did it but put in 123, which is the talking clock, he had a rather nice surprise when he got his bill!
It Runs!!!!! Bring on the SVA!
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 17/11/03 at 12:59 PM |
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Curry's are doing a Ferguson freeview box for £39
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Brooky
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| posted on 17/11/03 at 05:22 PM |
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Sky also keep changing their system slightly every time someone learns too much about hacking it, hence new cards at seemingly random intervals.
I have seen modded digital cable boxes on ebay for around £250
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