suparuss
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| posted on 24/1/04 at 12:02 PM |
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audi 80 gearbox/engine info pls
this is a long shot, but i could do with knowing the distance between the faceplates on the drive shaft outputs on the gearbox and also does anyone
know if the sierra shafts will fit em? i know they are a similar bolt on affair so making adapters will be no probs if not. and also also- dose anyone
know the length of the engine? im mostly interested in the gearbox, but even if i use the standard audi engine im on the right track for changin for
somethin beastier later.
one of these day ill make a decision and stick with one engine grr 
Cheers,
Russ.
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cymtriks
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| posted on 26/1/04 at 09:25 PM |
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Try looking at -
http://www.statikdesign.com/scratchbuilt/index.html
This website has a lot to interest most of us.
You can follow the link to Lambolounge on the gearbox or links page (I forget which but it's there). Lambolounge has a transaxle section which
includes a post on the Audi giving sizes.
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giel
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| posted on 27/1/04 at 10:51 PM |
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I have a 2.0 litre 5 cylinder (audi 100 '86) and a 1.6 litre 4 cylinder (audi 80 '89) in my garage, I can measure them if you like?
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suparuss
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| posted on 30/1/04 at 06:57 PM |
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you still there geil?
forgot about this thread
could do with a rough measurement from the axle center line to the front of the engine so i can see if it will fit in my car without changing the back
end, and also the height of the engine would be helpfull.
Cheers,
Russ.
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kb58
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| posted on 30/1/04 at 09:02 PM |
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Lambolounge... which reminds me...
At the risk of jacking this thread, is it me, or are those lambo frames look very, very, weak torsionally.
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suparuss
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| posted on 30/1/04 at 10:59 PM |
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thats what i thought, looking through the pics though they atatch quite a substantial frame made from box section under the floor. still far from
perfect though.
Russ.
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Alan B
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| posted on 30/1/04 at 11:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kb58
Lambolounge... which reminds me...
At the risk of jacking this thread, is it me, or are those lambo frames look very, very, weak torsionally.
Yes, indeed...you go tell em'...be careful not be "attacked" though......
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kb58
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 01:29 AM |
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Yeah, yeah... I'm getting better. Just so you know, I've gone cold turkey and not visited the Attack site in weeks!
And no I'm not going to tell the Lambo kit boys anything... Never mind they probably have no idea what torsional rigidity is anyway...
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MikeR
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| posted on 31/1/04 at 10:25 PM |
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Torsional Rigidity...... isn't that what happens to your trousers when one of the babes at motor show offers to give you a personal hands on
demonstration?
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cymtriks
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| posted on 2/2/04 at 09:38 PM |
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stiffness
Some of those Lambo frames do look very iffy. At the front of the doors the chassis consists of very thin sills and the tubes on the roof sides. That
leaves the tunnel. In some chassis it is boxed in to make a proper backbone. In others it isn't. That leaves not much except the floor
panels...
I reckon most of them would be better off with a simple X or K braced ladder frame. Probably lighter and stiffer if the footwells and passenger region
were braced into the base structure properly.
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suparuss
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| posted on 4/2/04 at 08:48 PM |
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bump
still could do with those sizes pls!
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cymtriks
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 08:24 PM |
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Audi limits?
While we're on the Audi subject does anyone know what the power limit for these gearboxes is in 2WD variant.
Audi switch to 4wd over 220bhp / 3.0V6 which halves the load on the final drive.
Porsche use the Audi box in the Boxster up to 217bhp and switch to a special box for the S models.
On the Lambolounge site there seem to be plenty of people who reckon that big V8s and a BMW V12 will fit and work OK.
Any opinions?
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suparuss
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 08:29 PM |
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i looked a bit closer and it seems the lambo lounge guys are using the quatro one, but that is longer at the back and you get a shaft sticking out.
not sure if its true taht they are using that one tho
im interested in this info too, as well the dimensions no one seems to have. i have hte gearbox dims but no engine dims 
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giel
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 10:10 PM |
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As promised, I will post the dimensions. But it will not be until this weekend, so please have some more patience. It's because the stuff is not
at my house, but a few kms out of town.
As for the maximum engine torque/power they can handle: don't forget that the weight of the car is also a parameter in the wear of a gearbox.
The lighter the car, the easier the life of the transmission. Plus, most kitcars are not intended to last 200.000 kms.
[Edited on 5/2/04 by giel]
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suparuss
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 10:48 PM |
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nice one, cheers m8!
the rough height length and width of both engines will do please.
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giel
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| posted on 7/2/04 at 06:22 PM |
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Done some rough measurements today, in mm:
'86 Audi 100 engine/transmission KP/AAZ
- width over output flanges: 145 left, 145 right
- centre output flanges to back of transmission: 470
- centre output flanges to front of engine: 800
- centre of crank pulley to outer points of engine: 180 left, 450 right (without connection of air intake, pointing to the side)
Same values for '89 Audi 80 PP/AMR:
- 155 left, 125 right
- 430
- 700
- 220 left, 400 right (without air filter installed)
Hope it's of any help. Forgot to take the height, sorry.
[Edited on 7/2/04 by giel]
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suparuss
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| posted on 7/2/04 at 10:15 PM |
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nice, i take it hte audi 100 engine is a straight 5?
well they both will fit perfect lengthwise any way, with an inch spare at the front and back with the long one and loads of room with the short one!
width may be a problem with most of the engine being on the right, but i can offset it and modify the shafts so thats cool.
Thanks again.
Russ.
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