britishtrident
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| posted on 13/3/11 at 10:54 AM |
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Pot holes just cost me 2 wheels in 2 days Rant
Title says it all pot holes have just cost me 2 alloys on the tin top --- strange thing tyres appear undamaged re-using one tyre with with
great caution checking it afrer every trip.
[Edited on 13/3/11 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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designer
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| posted on 13/3/11 at 11:00 AM |
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Claim off the council.
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v8kid
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| posted on 13/3/11 at 11:31 AM |
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Its a pita claiming the council. Did it once and succeeded but got so wound up by the attitude I just pay up and put up now. Three wheels on my car
have been welded now and I was not so lucky with the tyres!
You'd be surprised how quickly the sales people at B&Q try and assist you after ignoring you for the past 15 minutes when you try and start a
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brookie
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| posted on 13/3/11 at 12:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by designer
Claim off the council.
not that easy m8 if the pot hole has not been reported they will not pay u out
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slingshot2000
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| posted on 13/3/11 at 12:13 PM |
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Get a couple of mates to report it, then make a claim a few days later, but before they fix it!
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vinny1275
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| posted on 13/3/11 at 12:32 PM |
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Could've been worse...
Pothole linky
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 14/3/11 at 10:51 AM |
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definitely get a claim in. The sooner the state of the roads starts to hit THEM in the pocket the sooner they might actually do some preventative
maintenance on this countries infrastructure (sadly lacking for 14 years now)
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balidey
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| posted on 14/3/11 at 11:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
definitely get a claim in. The sooner the state of the roads starts to hit THEM in the pocket the sooner they might actually do some preventative
maintenance on this countries infrastructure (sadly lacking for 14 years now)
But it won't hit them, it will hit us.
I know we already pay for the upkeep of the roads, but if they spend an extra £1,000,000 (just a figure I plucked from the air) on repairing
pot-holes, you can guarantee that our council taxes will increase. And they will use that figure to justify it. As we know it cost them extra, and it
has to come from someone.... ie us the tax payer.
Same old story.
Dutch bears have terrible skin due to their clogged paws
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 14/3/11 at 11:21 AM |
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Actually they cover it with insurance, and that's the gamble they play - insurance cost vs fixing cost. They don't actually pay you out of
council coffers and if you claimed £10K it wouldn't increase their premium by 10K next year, much the same as cars.
I know because I've just had a letter back from a local council offering me an insurance claim form.
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balidey
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| posted on 14/3/11 at 11:28 AM |
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That may be so.
But thats not what I meant.
I meant that if it costs them a million to repair the roads and pay for damaged wheels. Then next year the council tax will go up and the excuse they
use will be..... 'well last year we had to pay an extra million on the upkeep of the roads due to the severe winter weather'.
Its done all the time. Something costs money, taxes go up, reason is that something cost money.
So hitting the council will not make THEM pay, it will just hit us all harder.
And this is not me saying don't claim for the wheels. Just saying that it won't hit the council one bit.
Dutch bears have terrible skin due to their clogged paws
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MikeR
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| posted on 14/3/11 at 12:03 PM |
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Actually, it probably will come out of hte council coffers one way or another.
They've either have an excess above the cost of the wheel to keep insurance claims down OR have to make a claim on insurance and have the
premium go up next year. Either way, you pay eventually.
Having said that, there has to be a point when its more cost effective to fix the pot holes than the keep paying via insurance. So get it reported
& know that you've potentially saved someone else a damaged alloy or even worse a crash.
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 14/3/11 at 01:00 PM |
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It's more the accidents that I'm concerned about anyway, when I reported mine it had nearly had me off the road with 4 people in the car
(NSL on a bend). Imagine the claim for 4 paralysed people due to shoddy/untimely road repairs.
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Moorron
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| posted on 14/3/11 at 01:40 PM |
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i feel your pain.
For the comments about who pays yes it will always be us. But what will happen if all our taxes increases alot is we get more and more likley to
speaqk up about it. In other words if they hiked your local council tax next year by £1000 to cover all the repairs/claims to the roads then alot of
people would not pay it, strike or start to really press the other costly things like the 'posh art statue on the new roundabout costing
£100K' or the council managers wages.
These are things that would happen and they know that once people start to see that protesting works when in numbers they will lose out. Thats why
they clamp down on any protests quickly here in the UK, but the more people are supressed from having our say with our money then the bigger the
'snap' will be.
I like many have been charged for a service which hasnt been provided, telling me the money has run out is twisted the knife in me as its telling
me:
A, you havent charged me correctly when you budgeted for it in the first place (unlikely)
B, you have used the money else where (stole my money then)
C, Made a clear choice to cut corners.
I cant see any excuse for pot holes, the money was there and spent on other things including some nice large wages for some. Now im suffering for it
they want to tell me its not their fault and tought luck.
PS, has anyone seen that film 'anger management'? This is happened to the most of the UK polulation yet all we do is complain when people
snap. For a modern country it baffles me how we can be so short sighted.
[Edited on 14/3/11 by Moorron]
[Edited on 14/3/11 by Moorron]
Sorry about my spelling, im an engineer and only work in numbers.
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 14/3/11 at 02:32 PM |
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Sorry, it appears to have gone slightly off on to a semi-political tangent but...
Most of the roads in the UK are publicly funded so if they need repairing then they need to be paid for with public money. This is a finite resource
and I am not suggesting that it is entirely appropriately allocated to what needs doing.
The main problem is that repairs are cr*p and is only the engineering equivalent of a sticking plaster which gets wet and falls off. I would put money
on the fact that most of the problem potholes are associated with either previous repairs or utilities reinstatement. Of course, pressure could be put
on the utility companies to not cut corners in reinstatement and then everyone's gas, electric and water bills will go up.
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 14/3/11 at 03:06 PM |
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BT,
If you don't claim when your car gets damaged then you are taking away the incentive for them to fix the road.
Do the right thing, put in a claim. It is your civil duty.
Think of it this way, if everyone claimed in previous years, then they would have to implement a more efficient system, and you wouldn't be in
this situation.
Matt
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 14/3/11 at 03:25 PM |
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if no one claims you essentially pay the extra anyway by paying to repair your own wheel and tyre. At least if its claimed there appears a statistic
for "poor roads cost the council N million last year" and, as observed, it will become more cost effective to fix them. If people just
keep quiet then there is no incentive to do any roads maintenance at all (unless some poor biker gets killed)
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